to combine patches from all extant personally
maintained copies of the plan 9 source tree)
don't thank me until you've tried to get straight answers to follow-up
questions.
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[0] http://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html#0.2.3
[1] i'm typing this on a thinkpad x250, over intel wifi/wpa2, running
and it has a vga port.
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thinkpad x250 (see related entry in fqa3).
everything works. mine is 1920x1080 ips.
nothing newer is tested, but when we started, nothing newer than t23
was tested.
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I paid $0.99 for my set on eBay.
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program can be better than a featureful one, if the deficient program
is simple and easy to modify. just implement whatever it is you
actually want to do.
some people would say this is ugly:
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rio/img/20190415.png
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.
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I ended up writing a ned-alike that is just a shell script:
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/mother
This is what I actually use.
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ippery is involved.
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obably just about
what you're looking for.
Plan 9's mail system itself (upas) relies heavily upon upasfs(4),
filter(1), and simple rc scripts, which make even complex tasks
like custom spam filtering and automatic mailbox management
trivial.
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what is the point of this exercise?
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> How can I disable the touchpad so only the mouse moves?
bios
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(if very, very slowly). I have used it to make edits to
9front propaganda.
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: performance is terrible.
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good luck with whatever your ultimate goal is.
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ute
single commands.
If this is really your aim, I think you can accomplish it with minimal
stress.
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[0] http://fqa.9front.org/fqa3.html
[1] http://fqa.9front.org/fqa5.html
[2] http://drawterm.9front.org
the marketplace and no one has the funds to tackle it, even if they
> felt that the result would be worth it.
>
> But there is something in not following the fashion; I, for one,
> really cherish it. Mostly because it is all so simple, once you leave
> the baroque world of Windows, Linux and OSX behind.
>
> Lucio.
I think he was looking for
http://fqa.9front.org/fqa4.html
and
http://fqa.9front.org/fqa5.html
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pun intended).
Have you considered providing this service?
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Honestly, the equality sign is never a problem for me.
What is the purpose again of making this change?
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> I believe that it is documented somewhere on Russ Cox’s website or on
> plan9port.
Sorry, I thought you were referring to the swipe gestures introduced in the
link you quoted.
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> Is there any interest in putting these p9port style keyboard modifiers into
> p9bl or 9front?
Could you explain exactly what the modifiers are and how they work?
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> So... Does Alcatel-Lucent have a problem with AppleWebKit
> users on principle?
Interesting reversal.
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> #plan9doomport
James?
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ording and Ctrl-b to switch focus to the command window. And some minor
bugfixes.
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> The plan9port version also has chording if in its samterm/main.c you
> change #define chording 0 to #define chording 1.
It was also marked as being buggy, which is why it remains disabled by default.
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out to replace the same that was already in p9p with this newer
modification.
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> Unfortunately sam isn't available on Inferno
I don't remember where I got this, and I don't know who wrote it,
and it definitely seems pretty buggy, but:
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/inferno/src/sam.tgz
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Skip, isn't the point here that being able to run go binaries
in Plan 9 on an arm machine is news to most Plan 9 users?
Perhaps even news to those who regularly use go on Plan 9.
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https://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html#0.2.3
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; echo $cputype
amd64
fs; go version
go version go1.5 plan9/amd64
fs;
#go-plan9 is aware of the details and some investigation was done, but
work stalled out.
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ing cracks because some funfamental things remain
broken in all versions (see the open issues).
People who didn't notice tip no longer builds on some systems may
(like me) have been content running their existing working binaries.
Not everyone chases updates unless there is an immediate reason to
update.
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o!
Newer versions of go seem to have problems with Plan 9.
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nd simply building, there are also still outstanding bug reports
about basic functionality that affect all versions of Plan 9. I don't
think there has been much movement there, either.
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dows program (ships with the device) to
program its settings before using it for the first time.
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e code. I think this may just be because the
repository I found was not the source repository. Anyway:
http://marcus.biz.tm/hg/gnubin
The git binary seems to run. I'm not sure if it works.
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http://doc.cat-v.org/unix/find-history
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http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/_books/comp/plan9/Notes.On.The.Plan.9.3rd.Edition.Kernel.Source.pdf
It's a bit outdated at this point, but is still helpful to understand
what's going on.
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ntly maintained, but Plan 9 ships with a copy
of it under /sys/src/cmd/unix. I used that as the basis of the OpenBSD
port.
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Take a look at $PLAN9/rcmain.
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many c programs in my life, some of them useful for myself,
but I do not know how to port software.
Saludos,
Plan9port is in the OpenBSD ports tree. You can either install the package
or build the port from source.
More information here:
http://www.openbsd.org
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So my question is, did there ever exist an edition of KR in that
colour scheme, or is gcc to blame for the inaccuracy?
The old web page for the book had a nice collection of covers from
around the world:
http://9p.io/cm/cs/cbook/index.html
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TEST(1) TEST(1)
NAME
test - set status according to condition
SYNOPSIS
test expr
DESCRIPTION
Test evaluates the expression expr. If the value is true the
exit status is null; otherwise
bigger, what i'd like to see is x, where x is to
awk as rc is to the
bourne shell.
The ssam (stream interface to sam) script from plan9port is heavier than
awk by itself, but can be useful for a lot of the same tasks.
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test
that power godoc?
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think the idea is it's best if the trouble report includes
a coherent description of the problem, so strangers don't have
to guess.
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But why we don't have Tmove for example?
http://9front.org/img/9tmove01.png
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In case it wasn't entirely clear, go for arm does not currently work
on Plan 9.
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Aren't they talking about rc when running on their operating system?
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when you tried?
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The following is 9front-specific but is still generally useful:
http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/issues/detail?id=207
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SSH and run whatever scripts or compilers
are necessary to complete the write-build-test cycle.
Do you even use Plan 9? What do you use it for?
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Try removing the old 9bootfat before copying the new one into place.
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Is it possible to print the screen in Plan 9?
topng /dev/screen screen.png
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I've tried multiple ways to change the font in Abaco but failed.
Check out the example file /sys/src/cmd/abaco/abaco.fonts. Copy this to
$home/lib and edit it to suit.
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How can i send a patch to 9front?
You can file an issue and link to your patch here:
http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/issues/list
Or you can sign up for the 9front mailing list and post there:
http://9front.org/lists.html
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type into the shell that produces the desired result is
a valid shell script.
So, you could make a script $home/bin/rc/a:
#!/bin/rc
acme -f /lib/font/bit/lucidasans/latin1.10.font
Do chmod +xr $home/bin/rc/a and then run it by just typing a.
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.
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Yes you can. That's how I verified this works. Open up the tag to
multiple lines (just type newline in the tag).
I think this only works in p9p.
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The wikipedia entry on leap second is quite instructive.
It is now.
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is more
than one machine, and we don't know what or where the problem is.
Anyway, thanks for pointing out the website was not working.
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, please give me the link of
my topic that was moved.
this was an inside joke. you are not expected to understand this.
these aren't the amd64 kernels you're looking for
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to subscribe to the 9front mailing list is to
send a message with a body that just says subscribe (no quotes)
to 9front-ow...@9front.org. After subscribing, list messages are
sent to and received from 9fr...@9front.org.
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. Basically,
the realemu program provides the /dev/realmode synthetic file.
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I learned about plan9 a couple days ago, and I'm impressed. But I do have a
couple questions:
A lot of information (a links to more) is collected here:
http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/fqa
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If I choose 9front machine as for network file/auth/cpu server (cwfs),
and try to boot Richard's 9pi terminal (fossil) but root from the server,
can I do it?
Yes.
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http://9front.org/img/9kbdfs01.png
you'd need to backport p9p acme to plan 9.
This has been done for 9front.
Some additional features were implemented in 9front's copy of Plan 9
acme, but it's not accurate to say p9p acme was backported to 9front.
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It just seems like creating a fake os (as in, no one even intends
to use this os) from scratch in order to explain a real os (as in,
the goal is to finally understand or at least use this os) makes
things even more difficult to understand.
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Drn3lm0g7C2zdzOj5x9hvhgVln13JoSx-zs_z1KEztI
Do you have a version of this document that is accessible from Plan 9?
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/n/sources/contrib/forsyth/Plan9ServeronEC2.pdf
Thanks!
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Feel free to borrow any of the images from here:
http://9front.org/propaganda/
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http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/KnownWorkingHardware
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/hardware/
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for this but on p9p things
get considerably clunkier (9p, fuse...) when a variable can do
the job more simply.
this was done in wily in the mid 90s, complete with an algorithm
to find the shortest representation.
What was the result? In which distribution is it available? How is
it used?
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, I somehow missed wily in your original reply.
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So here is another proof that plan9 can run on recent hardware, including
beautiful notebooks :)
Is any more specific information available about the manufacturer and model
of the laptop?
sl
http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/fqa0
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I was under the understanding Plan 9
didn't work under VMWare...
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/vmware/img/fusion.png
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i use a derivative of nemo's patch system.
Where is this in the 9atom tree? Did you replace the old
patch(1) entirely?
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Plan 9 on their computers.
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be done with their
changes.
Enjoy.
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you're missing my point. it's not particularly useful as a tinker-toy
set. especially when there are 10 wheels and 1 stick.
What I know is that I turn on my Thinkpad x230 and everything
works. After the boot process finishes I just carry on with my
work.
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are still working on Plan 9.
If you want to keep secrets, keep them. But nothing done by
any of the forks is secret. Just take the code and do with it
what you will. Why is this controversial?
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at a time.
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Dan Brown
low blow
nobody could just say: Hack
on the 386 kernel because nothing else is in the official
distribution yet.
Why is this stuff always so difficult?
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because it seems to keep getting missed:
That work was only available to us because you made it available.
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your options are 9atom or 9front.
well no, no they aren't.
What are the other options?
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vre=779 vt=792
hsync=+ vsync=-
---
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results
than just dueling anecdotes
I haven't made any attempt to catalogue VESA vs EDID
discrepancies, but I do keep a small archive of hardware
info here:
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/hardware
We try to collect the sysinfo[1] output for as many
systems as possible, for later reference.
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attempting to boot
a machine from it over the network? Do you understand the
difference?
Just wondering if there was a guide I missed
https://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/fqa
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You could put your long command line into a shell script
that takes no arguments and run that shell script from
acme's tag.
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The above echo command did nothing to the /adm/users file for me on
vanilla 9front.
Has anyone verified that he's even running cwfs?
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and was
adopted by progressively larger communities, finally becoming something
of a global standard, where it still enjoys great popularity.
What remains of UNIX is sometimes difficult to recognize.
http://harmful.cat-v.org/cat-v
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by public
relations. Projects that have produced material of value typically eschew these
exercises in favor of doing the real work.
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[0] The UNIX Programming Environment, by Brian W. Kernighan and Rob Pike
Just a newbie's (with 35 years experience) perception.
It sounds like you're saying that you came on the scene around
the time UNIX diverged from sanity and devolved into madness.
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still a bit pixilated
1 bit fonts are legible. this is a feature.
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Those look like mine. Obviously it is highly usable, but the fonts shown
are pixilated and not smooth like fonts that come with the Mac, Linux, etc.
It's a matter of taste, but I prefer the sharpness of the 1 bit fonts. The gray,
fuzzy stuff eventually takes a toll on my eyes.
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It's a matter of taste, but I prefer the sharpness of the 1 bit fonts. The
gray,
fuzzy stuff eventually takes a toll on my eyes.
s/taste/eyesight/, perhaps?
Perhaps, but I like to think differences of opinion don't necessarily
indicate physical disability.
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.font is welcome simply because the runes are
large enough to distinguish on screen.
Rob planned for the future.
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