Re: [9fans] Touchpad

2018-09-19 Thread sl
> How can I disable the touchpad so only the mouse moves? bios sl

Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread sl
(if very, very slowly). I have used it to make edits to 9front propaganda. sl

Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread sl
: performance is terrible. sl

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-14 Thread sl
good luck with whatever your ultimate goal is. sl

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-13 Thread sl
ute single commands. If this is really your aim, I think you can accomplish it with minimal stress. sl [0] http://fqa.9front.org/fqa3.html [1] http://fqa.9front.org/fqa5.html [2] http://drawterm.9front.org

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-13 Thread sl
the marketplace and no one has the funds to tackle it, even if they > felt that the result would be worth it. > > But there is something in not following the fashion; I, for one, > really cherish it. Mostly because it is all so simple, once you leave > the baroque world of Windows, Linux and OSX behind. > > Lucio. I think he was looking for http://fqa.9front.org/fqa4.html and http://fqa.9front.org/fqa5.html sl

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread sl
pun intended). Have you considered providing this service? sl

Re: [9fans] equality sign in Rc

2017-05-15 Thread sl
Honestly, the equality sign is never a problem for me. What is the purpose again of making this change? sl

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-02 Thread sl
> I believe that it is documented somewhere on Russ Cox’s website or on > plan9port. Sorry, I thought you were referring to the swipe gestures introduced in the link you quoted. sl

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-02 Thread sl
> Is there any interest in putting these p9port style keyboard modifiers into > p9bl or 9front? Could you explain exactly what the modifiers are and how they work? sl

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com hates AppleWebKit?

2016-10-02 Thread sl
> So... Does Alcatel-Lucent have a problem with AppleWebKit > users on principle? Interesting reversal. sl

Re: [9fans] 9front 5492 1919

2016-09-22 Thread sl
> #plan9doomport James? sl

Re: [9fans] 9front sam in plan9port.

2016-05-21 Thread sl
ording and Ctrl-b to switch focus to the command window. And some minor bugfixes. sl

Re: [9fans] 9front sam in plan9port.

2016-05-21 Thread sl
> The plan9port version also has chording if in its samterm/main.c you > change #define chording 0 to #define chording 1. It was also marked as being buggy, which is why it remains disabled by default. sl

Re: [9fans] 9front sam in plan9port.

2016-05-21 Thread sl
out to replace the same that was already in p9p with this newer modification. sl

Re: [9fans] /acme/edit commands?

2016-05-20 Thread sl
> Unfortunately sam isn't available on Inferno I don't remember where I got this, and I don't know who wrote it, and it definitely seems pretty buggy, but: http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/inferno/src/sam.tgz sl

Re: [9fans] Go on Plan 9?

2016-04-12 Thread sl
Skip, isn't the point here that being able to run go binaries in Plan 9 on an arm machine is news to most Plan 9 users? Perhaps even news to those who regularly use go on Plan 9. sl

Re: [9fans] NetSurf (browser) and Duktape (javascript)

2016-02-19 Thread sl
https://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html#0.2.3 sl

Re: [9fans] rc exec error behaviour

2016-02-02 Thread sl
; echo $cputype amd64 fs; go version go version go1.5 plan9/amd64 fs; #go-plan9 is aware of the details and some investigation was done, but work stalled out. sl

Re: [9fans] rc exec error behaviour

2016-02-02 Thread sl
ing cracks because some funfamental things remain broken in all versions (see the open issues). People who didn't notice tip no longer builds on some systems may (like me) have been content running their existing working binaries. Not everyone chases updates unless there is an immediate reason to update. sl

Re: [9fans] Go on Plan 9?

2016-01-26 Thread sl
o! Newer versions of go seem to have problems with Plan 9. sl

Re: [9fans] Go on Plan 9?

2016-01-26 Thread sl
nd simply building, there are also still outstanding bug reports about basic functionality that affect all versions of Plan 9. I don't think there has been much movement there, either. sl

Re: [9fans] Wireless on the Pi?

2016-01-09 Thread sl
dows program (ships with the device) to program its settings before using it for the first time. sl

Re: [9fans] off topic - a good Git reference

2015-10-06 Thread sl
e code. I think this may just be because the repository I found was not the source repository. Anyway: http://marcus.biz.tm/hg/gnubin The git binary seems to run. I'm not sure if it works. sl

Re: [9fans] Replacement for find

2015-09-30 Thread sl
http://doc.cat-v.org/unix/find-history sl

Re: [9fans] Pre-ANSI C

2015-09-11 Thread sl
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/_books/comp/plan9/Notes.On.The.Plan.9.3rd.Edition.Kernel.Source.pdf It's a bit outdated at this point, but is still helpful to understand what's going on. sl

Re: [9fans] u9fs sources

2015-09-01 Thread sl
ntly maintained, but Plan 9 ships with a copy of it under /sys/src/cmd/unix. I used that as the basis of the OpenBSD port. sl

Re: [9fans] On Linux, what is the rc init file?

2015-08-28 Thread sl
Take a look at $PLAN9/rcmain. sl

Re: [9fans] p9p on openbsd/amd64

2015-07-06 Thread sl
many c programs in my life, some of them useful for myself, but I do not know how to port software. Saludos, Plan9port is in the OpenBSD ports tree. You can either install the package or build the port from source. More information here: http://www.openbsd.org sl

Re: [9fans] Wildly off-topic

2015-06-15 Thread sl
So my question is, did there ever exist an edition of KR in that colour scheme, or is gcc to blame for the inaccuracy? The old web page for the book had a nice collection of covers from around the world: http://9p.io/cm/cs/cbook/index.html sl

Re: [9fans] inequality testing in shell

2015-06-14 Thread sl
TEST(1) TEST(1) NAME test - set status according to condition SYNOPSIS test expr DESCRIPTION Test evaluates the expression expr. If the value is true the exit status is null; otherwise

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

2015-05-30 Thread sl
bigger, what i'd like to see is x, where x is to awk as rc is to the bourne shell. The ssam (stream interface to sam) script from plan9port is heavier than awk by itself, but can be useful for a lot of the same tasks. sl

[9fans] test

2015-05-17 Thread sl
test

Re: [9fans] unexpected tabs in man pages after font change

2015-03-04 Thread sl
that power godoc? sl

Re: [9fans] once more: drawterm osx-x11 on x86-64

2015-02-28 Thread sl
think the idea is it's best if the trouble report includes a coherent description of the problem, so strangers don't have to guess. sl

Re: [9fans] wstat and atomic directory change

2015-02-04 Thread sl
But why we don't have Tmove for example? http://9front.org/img/9tmove01.png sl

Re: [9fans] Installing Go in Plan 9 on the Raspberry Pi.

2014-12-24 Thread sl
In case it wasn't entirely clear, go for arm does not currently work on Plan 9. sl

Re: [9fans] Debian bug 737206 - rc shell uses insecurely /tmp

2014-12-04 Thread sl
Aren't they talking about rc when running on their operating system? sl

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user.

2014-12-02 Thread sl
when you tried? sl

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user.

2014-12-02 Thread sl
The following is 9front-specific but is still generally useful: http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/issues/detail?id=207 sl

Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!

2014-11-18 Thread sl
SSH and run whatever scripts or compilers are necessary to complete the write-build-test cycle. Do you even use Plan 9? What do you use it for? sl

Re: [9fans] can't install 9front kernels

2014-11-13 Thread sl
Try removing the old 9bootfat before copying the new one into place. sl

Re: [9fans] Print Screen?

2014-11-08 Thread sl
Is it possible to print the screen in Plan 9? topng /dev/screen screen.png sl

Re: [9fans] Change font in Abaco

2014-11-08 Thread sl
I've tried multiple ways to change the font in Abaco but failed. Check out the example file /sys/src/cmd/abaco/abaco.fonts. Copy this to $home/lib and edit it to suit. sl

Re: [9fans] atexit() atexitdont()

2014-11-07 Thread sl
How can i send a patch to 9front? You can file an issue and link to your patch here: http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/issues/list Or you can sign up for the 9front mailing list and post there: http://9front.org/lists.html sl

Re: [9fans] Persistent font in Acme.

2014-11-07 Thread sl
type into the shell that produces the desired result is a valid shell script. So, you could make a script $home/bin/rc/a: #!/bin/rc acme -f /lib/font/bit/lucidasans/latin1.10.font Do chmod +xr $home/bin/rc/a and then run it by just typing a. sl

Re: [9fans] Persistent font in Acme.

2014-11-07 Thread sl
. sl

Re: [9fans] [acme] Edit command -- More than one argument?

2014-10-27 Thread sl
Yes you can. That's how I verified this works. Open up the tag to multiple lines (just type newline in the tag). I think this only works in p9p. sl

Re: [9fans] silly question

2014-09-02 Thread sl
The wikipedia entry on leap second is quite instructive. It is now. sl

Re: [9fans] Plan9 Server Down

2014-08-21 Thread sl
Please someone reboot the Plan9 server. Which server? Why reboot it? sl

Re: [9fans] Plan9 Server Down

2014-08-21 Thread sl
is more than one machine, and we don't know what or where the problem is. Anyway, thanks for pointing out the website was not working. sl

Re: [9fans] The developers of Plan9 think there was no point in coding in binary code three years ago as they did or make the Riga Technical University and University of Latvia?

2014-08-20 Thread sl
, please give me the link of my topic that was moved. this was an inside joke. you are not expected to understand this. these aren't the amd64 kernels you're looking for sl

Re: [9fans] Strange VGA thing

2014-08-01 Thread sl
to subscribe to the 9front mailing list is to send a message with a body that just says subscribe (no quotes) to 9front-ow...@9front.org. After subscribing, list messages are sent to and received from 9fr...@9front.org. sl

Re: [9fans] Strange VGA thing

2014-08-01 Thread sl
. Basically, the realemu program provides the /dev/realmode synthetic file. sl

Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list

2014-08-01 Thread sl
I learned about plan9 a couple days ago, and I'm impressed. But I do have a couple questions: A lot of information (a links to more) is collected here: http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/fqa sl

Re: [9fans] booting 9pi terminal for 9front server

2014-07-29 Thread sl
If I choose 9front machine as for network file/auth/cpu server (cwfs), and try to boot Richard's 9pi terminal (fossil) but root from the server, can I do it? Yes. sl

Re: [9fans] kbdputc() in devcons.c in 9front?

2014-07-17 Thread sl
http://9front.org/img/9kbdfs01.png

Re: [9fans] Two Acme questions

2014-07-16 Thread sl
you'd need to backport p9p acme to plan 9. This has been done for 9front. Some additional features were implemented in 9front's copy of Plan 9 acme, but it's not accurate to say p9p acme was backported to 9front. sl

Re: [9fans] simplest disk filesystem

2014-07-16 Thread sl
It just seems like creating a fake os (as in, no one even intends to use this os) from scratch in order to explain a real os (as in, the goal is to finally understand or at least use this os) makes things even more difficult to understand. sl

Re: [9fans] Kabini or Raspberry Pi?

2014-07-01 Thread sl
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Drn3lm0g7C2zdzOj5x9hvhgVln13JoSx-zs_z1KEztI Do you have a version of this document that is accessible from Plan 9? sl

Re: [9fans] Kabini or Raspberry Pi?

2014-07-01 Thread sl
/n/sources/contrib/forsyth/Plan9ServeronEC2.pdf Thanks! sl

Re: [9fans] For the more esoteric mind...

2014-06-30 Thread sl
Feel free to borrow any of the images from here: http://9front.org/propaganda/ sl

Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview

2014-06-29 Thread sl
http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/KnownWorkingHardware http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/hardware/ sl

Re: [9fans] long paths in acme tags

2014-06-11 Thread sl
for this but on p9p things get considerably clunkier (9p, fuse...) when a variable can do the job more simply. this was done in wily in the mid 90s, complete with an algorithm to find the shortest representation. What was the result? In which distribution is it available? How is it used? sl

Re: [9fans] long paths in acme tags

2014-06-11 Thread sl
, I somehow missed wily in your original reply. sl

Re: [9fans] glenda at 3200x1800x32

2014-06-06 Thread sl
So here is another proof that plan9 can run on recent hardware, including beautiful notebooks :) Is any more specific information available about the manufacturer and model of the laptop? sl

Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?

2014-06-04 Thread sl
http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/fqa0 sl

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

2014-05-22 Thread sl
I was under the understanding Plan 9 didn't work under VMWare... http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/vmware/img/fusion.png sl

Re: [9fans] syscall 53

2014-05-21 Thread sl
i use a derivative of nemo's patch system. Where is this in the 9atom tree? Did you replace the old patch(1) entirely? sl

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

2014-05-07 Thread sl
Plan 9 on their computers. sl

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

2014-05-07 Thread sl
be done with their changes. Enjoy. sl

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

2014-05-07 Thread sl
you're missing my point. it's not particularly useful as a tinker-toy set. especially when there are 10 wheels and 1 stick. What I know is that I turn on my Thinkpad x230 and everything works. After the boot process finishes I just carry on with my work. sl

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

2014-05-07 Thread sl
are still working on Plan 9. If you want to keep secrets, keep them. But nothing done by any of the forks is secret. Just take the code and do with it what you will. Why is this controversial? sl

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

2014-05-07 Thread sl
at a time. sl

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

2014-05-07 Thread sl
Dan Brown low blow

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

2014-05-07 Thread sl
nobody could just say: Hack on the 386 kernel because nothing else is in the official distribution yet. Why is this stuff always so difficult? sl

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

2014-05-07 Thread sl
because it seems to keep getting missed: That work was only available to us because you made it available. sl

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

2014-05-06 Thread sl
your options are 9atom or 9front. well no, no they aren't. What are the other options? sl

Re: [9fans] (no subject)

2014-04-15 Thread sl
vre=779 vt=792 hsync=+ vsync=- --- sl

Re: [9fans] (no subject)

2014-04-15 Thread sl
results than just dueling anecdotes I haven't made any attempt to catalogue VESA vs EDID discrepancies, but I do keep a small archive of hardware info here: http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/hardware We try to collect the sysinfo[1] output for as many systems as possible, for later reference. sl

Re: [9fans] [9front] enabling authentication on a cpu server.

2014-04-14 Thread sl
attempting to boot a machine from it over the network? Do you understand the difference? Just wondering if there was a guide I missed https://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/fqa sl

Re: [9fans] [p9p] restart program on Acme Load

2014-01-10 Thread sl
You could put your long command line into a shell script that takes no arguments and run that shell script from acme's tag. sl

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-23 Thread sl
The above echo command did nothing to the /adm/users file for me on vanilla 9front. Has anyone verified that he's even running cwfs? sl

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-23 Thread sl
and was adopted by progressively larger communities, finally becoming something of a global standard, where it still enjoys great popularity. What remains of UNIX is sometimes difficult to recognize. http://harmful.cat-v.org/cat-v sl

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-23 Thread sl
by public relations. Projects that have produced material of value typically eschew these exercises in favor of doing the real work. sl [0] The UNIX Programming Environment, by Brian W. Kernighan and Rob Pike

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread sl
Just a newbie's (with 35 years experience) perception. It sounds like you're saying that you came on the scene around the time UNIX diverged from sanity and devolved into madness. sl

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread sl
still a bit pixilated 1 bit fonts are legible. this is a feature. sl

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread sl
Those look like mine. Obviously it is highly usable, but the fonts shown are pixilated and not smooth like fonts that come with the Mac, Linux, etc. It's a matter of taste, but I prefer the sharpness of the 1 bit fonts. The gray, fuzzy stuff eventually takes a toll on my eyes. sl

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread sl
It's a matter of taste, but I prefer the sharpness of the 1 bit fonts. The gray, fuzzy stuff eventually takes a toll on my eyes. s/taste/eyesight/, perhaps? Perhaps, but I like to think differences of opinion don't necessarily indicate physical disability. sl

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread sl
.font is welcome simply because the runes are large enough to distinguish on screen. Rob planned for the future. sl

Re: [9fans] Go and 21-bit runes (and a bit of Go status)

2013-12-03 Thread sl
if you are reading this you are committing a crime This is a public mailing list. sl

Re: [9fans] semaphore testing help

2013-09-24 Thread sl
This is from a Thinkpad T43p: term% sysinfo | grep cpu0 cpu0: 1995MHz GenuineIntel P6 (cpuid: AX 0x06D8 CX 0x0180 DX 0xAFE9FBFF) term% 9fs sources post... term% /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/locktest/doalltests P6 1996 1 0.25u 0.82s 3.04r8.lpingpong 0.22u 2.37s 5.54r8.sempingpong

Re: [9fans] p9p export or equivalent

2013-08-01 Thread sl
Or ftpfs. Or, there is an sftpfs in contrib. sl

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread sl
9front.iso - never gave me an option to run from cd or install, it just started launching itself. Several screens of info and it stop on this line: bootargs is (tcp, il, local!device)[local!dev/sdD0/data] _ blinking cursor, doa! Press enter. -sl

Re: [9fans] 9n

2013-06-17 Thread sl
all i see from you are pronouncements. show us your code. That's how this all started. -sl

Re: [9fans] Fossil disk usage over 100%?

2013-06-05 Thread sl
is defending what. I'll stop attempting to moderate. -sl

Re: [9fans] Fossil disk usage over 100%?

2013-06-05 Thread sl
is defending what. I'll stop attempting to moderate. -sl

Re: [9fans] Fossil disk usage over 100%?

2013-06-03 Thread sl
with the Grand Canyon for hours, but when you walk off the cliff you're still going to plummet to the ground. http://img.stanleylieber.com/src/15358/img/1370274020.jpg -sl

Re: [9fans] (no subject)

2013-06-03 Thread sl
with the Grand Canyon for hours, but when you walk off the cliff you're still going to plummet to the ground. http://img.stanleylieber.com/src/15358/img/1370274020.jpg -sl

Re: [9fans] Fossil disk usage over 100%?

2013-06-03 Thread sl
No doubt, but you then do then *exactly* the same thing with cwfs. Certainly. And we're back at square one. Everyone has their own story about how they lost data. -sl

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