Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
I've tried booting from usd cdrom, usb stick both 9labs and 9legacy. it does not recognize them. this is ICH9R that's claimed to be supported. I'm going to try one that has IDE support and ICH9R so it can boot from cdrom and hopefully then recognize the sata chipset, like this one: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3210/X7SBi.cfm that machine should boot from the 9atom usb stick no problems. - erik
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
On Sun Jun 29 14:21:20 EDT 2014, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: 1) UEFI bios I know that 9load and friends can't handle UEFI bios, but I'm guessing if it's possible to use GRUB and chainload Plan9 when the bios is UEFI. Is that possible ? yes, this is possible. the plan9 kernel can be made a multiboot image and loaded by any multiboot loader like grub. some changes are needed for labs plan9 for this to work tho, mainly moving the data segment on page boundary when called from multiboot entry point and using the multiboot memory map and plan9.ini as initrd module. this works out of the box with 9front. alternately a bios boot with uefi firmware will work. :-) detection should be automatic. - erik
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
i notice one bit in this thread that doesn't reflect how things really work. drives get labled C or D if they are blind probed at the usual i/o port locations; otherwise if they are discovered via pci space (even if at the standard port locations) they are labled starting with E. ahci drives also start with E, as they are similar in spirit to ide drives listed in pci space. it used to be that the labs iso would not boot from ahci because the cdrom would never show up as sdD0, for obvious reasons. it also wouldn't work on the amd motherboard i got as early as 2006 because the ide-interfaced sata was listed in pci space, and therefore showed up as sdE0 or some such. i don't know if this is still true of the labs kernel. - erik
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
http://9legacy.org/download/9spirit.iso.bz2 winrar says unexpected end of archive when extracting... That's surprising, it works fine here with bzip2 on Plan 9 or Linux. Also, these CD images are generated using the same scripts as the Bell Labs ones (ie compressed with bzip2 -9). % hget -o 9spirit.iso.bz2 http://9legacy.org/download/9spirit.iso.bz2 % bunzip2 9spirit.iso.bz2 % sha1sum 9spirit.iso.bz2 a6599db5660b930b5cbb72626947382db0aebd92 9spirit.iso.bz2 % sha1sum 9spirit.iso f2a5689dbe60fec207bfdce2cb1aa5cd351333d4 9spirit.iso You should check the sha1 of the downloaded file matches the one from http://9legacy.org/download/9spiritchecksums.txt. -- David du Colombier
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
ok this download worked, may be problem from my side. however, same outcome: foidn partition #S/sdE0/data 9 625,142,448 disks: sdE0 .. sdE5 trying sdE0:5...dosinit: can't open #S/sdE0:5/9fat dosinit #S/sdE0:5/9fat failed On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:29 AM, David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.com wrote: http://9legacy.org/download/9spirit.iso.bz2 winrar says unexpected end of archive when extracting... That's surprising, it works fine here with bzip2 on Plan 9 or Linux. Also, these CD images are generated using the same scripts as the Bell Labs ones (ie compressed with bzip2 -9). % hget -o 9spirit.iso.bz2 http://9legacy.org/download/9spirit.iso.bz2 % bunzip2 9spirit.iso.bz2 % sha1sum 9spirit.iso.bz2 a6599db5660b930b5cbb72626947382db0aebd92 9spirit.iso.bz2 % sha1sum 9spirit.iso f2a5689dbe60fec207bfdce2cb1aa5cd351333d4 9spirit.iso You should check the sha1 of the downloaded file matches the one from http://9legacy.org/download/9spiritchecksums.txt. -- David du Colombier
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 3:23 AM, Pierre-Jean pl...@utroff.org wrote: Helped by the various answers and a promotion on a webstore, I've purchased a supermicro x9SCAA motherboard. http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/X9/X9SCAA.cfm That might be working out of the box with one or the other distribution. I'll make a report here once tested. I've tried booting from usd cdrom, usb stick both 9labs and 9legacy. it does not recognize them. this is ICH9R that's claimed to be supported. I'm going to try one that has IDE support and ICH9R so it can boot from cdrom and hopefully then recognize the sata chipset, like this one: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3210/X7SBi.cfm
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:20 AM, balaji balaji.srinivasa+pl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 3:23 AM, Pierre-Jean pl...@utroff.org wrote: Helped by the various answers and a promotion on a webstore, I've purchased a supermicro x9SCAA motherboard. http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/X9/X9SCAA.cfm That might be working out of the box with one or the other distribution. I'll make a report here once tested. I've tried booting from usd cdrom, usb stick both 9labs and 9legacy. it does not recognize them. this is ICH9R that's claimed to be supported. the board is http://www.supermicro.com.tw/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPE.cfm part of http://www.supermicro.com.tw/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-PHF.cfm I'm going to try one that has IDE support and ICH9R so it can boot from cdrom and hopefully then recognize the sata chipset, like this one: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3210/X7SBi.cfm
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
I've tried booting from usd cdrom, usb stick both 9labs and 9legacy. it does not recognize them. this is ICH9R that's claimed to be supported. ICH9R should be supported, but the sdiahci driver is not present in the installation kernel (pcflop) from the Bell Labs CD image. You may try this image, which is not ideal, but has the merit to include the sdiahci driver in the pcflop kernel. http://9legacy.org/download/9spirit.iso.bz2 -- David du Colombier
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:02 AM, David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried booting from usd cdrom, usb stick both 9labs and 9legacy. it does not recognize them. this is ICH9R that's claimed to be supported. ICH9R should be supported, but the sdiahci driver is not present in the installation kernel (pcflop) from the Bell Labs CD image. You may try this image, which is not ideal, but has the merit to include the sdiahci driver in the pcflop kernel. http://9legacy.org/download/9spirit.iso.bz2 winrar says unexpected end of archive when extracting...
[9fans] 2014 hardware overview
Hello 9fans ! I've discovered Plan9 several years ago, and time to time, I read some documentation or walk throught the archive of this list. And it seems that I'm convinced by plan9 conception. Now, I'd like to give plan9 a real try. And since I need some hardware for that task, I'm querying 9fans for a recent hardware overview. Could you please answer the following questions ? 1) UEFI bios I know that 9load and friends can't handle UEFI bios, but I'm guessing if it's possible to use GRUB and chainload Plan9 when the bios is UEFI. Is that possible ? 2) Intel atom boards I know that the supermicro X7SPA-H-D525 works with plan9. But it becomes hard to find, while for the same price one can have a last generation supermicro atom board. Does anyone know if the recent atom processor (such as C2750, C2550, S1200, N2800, D2700) works with Plan9 ? What about the C2000 sata3 soc ? What about the C2000 i354 ethernet controler ? 3) Arm boards A lot of works has been done on the raspberry pi and the trimslice, but some other arm boards are sometimes mentionned on this list. Which are the arm boards know working actually and does someone is working on a port that might be soon public ? 4) Obvious hardware More generally, what do you think is the actual obvious hardware that one can find to build a file server and a cpu server for home usage ? Thanks for the answers ! Pierre-Jean.
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 11:32:44AM +0200, Pierre-Jean wrote: 4) Obvious hardware More generally, what do you think is the actual obvious hardware that one can find to build a file server and a cpu server for home usage ? the obvious hardware is a thinkpad. hello from 9front on an X301. pgpJLoBPnEitE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
look http://plan9.aichi-u.ac.jp/hardware/ 2014/06/29 18:32、Pierre-Jean pl...@utroff.org のメール： 4) Obvious hardware More generally, what do you think is the actual obvious hardware that one can find to build a file server and a cpu server for home usage ?
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
Welcome to a clean and simple OS. At home I run a supermicro dual 330 atom motherboard which I use as a combined cpu and auth serevr. I think this is a X7SPA-H-D525 though I honestly don't remember the part and don't want to open it up to look. I have a raspberry pi as a terminal - this works wonderfully well booting in the time it takes me to move from the power switch on the wall to the keyboard. At work I have a single cpu/auth/terminal server which is a dull HP desktop box but it serves well enough. sheeva plugs also work well though I don't have one. -Steve
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 5:25 PM, arisawa aris...@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp wrote: look http://plan9.aichi-u.ac.jp/hardware/ Thank you for the list. I have been looking at adding some cheap hardware to my home as well, to play with venti. It would have been nice if plan9 is ported to one of those NAS boxes. I will try a hand myself if I can get hold of a cheap old NAS box like the WD MyBook world edition. Ramakrishnan 2014/06/29 18:32、Pierre-Jean pl...@utroff.org のメール： 4) Obvious hardware More generally, what do you think is the actual obvious hardware that one can find to build a file server and a cpu server for home usage ? -- Ramakrishnan
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
Hello alls, Nick Owens wrote: the obvious hardware is a thinkpad. Using a laptop as a server seems strange, but is effectively a simple solution. Arisawa wrote: look http://plan9.aichi-u.ac.jp/hardware/ Very handfull. Steve Simon wrote: At home I run... That confirm the usual list of known working hardware. Thanks a lot for the various answers. Reading them, I believe that: 1) It's not possible to chainload plan9 when the firmware is uefi. But someone wrote me off list that «most uefi firmware also includes bios», and apparently, that is the case of the supermicro boards (their documentation seems to mention uefi boot as an option, and not as the default). 2) C2000 sata soc and i354 ethernet controllers are not known working yet. 3) There's not so much hope to see a port for another arm board than the raspberry pi and the trimslice soon. Cheers, Pierre-Jean.
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
1) UEFI bios I know that 9load and friends can't handle UEFI bios, but I'm guessing if it's possible to use GRUB and chainload Plan9 when the bios is UEFI. Is that possible ? yes, this is possible. the plan9 kernel can be made a multiboot image and loaded by any multiboot loader like grub. some changes are needed for labs plan9 for this to work tho, mainly moving the data segment on page boundary when called from multiboot entry point and using the multiboot memory map and plan9.ini as initrd module. this works out of the box with 9front. -- cinap
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http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/KnownWorkingHardware http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/hardware/ sl
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
The w510 also works with 9front. WiFi works with wpa2 , ethernet works, native screen resolution of 1366x768 does not currently work, it's stretched 1024x768. I'll mange a full list when I'm home. On Jun 29, 2014 3:02 PM, s...@9front.org wrote: http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/KnownWorkingHardware http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/hardware/ sl
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
Nick Owens wrote: the obvious hardware is a thinkpad. Using a laptop as a server seems strange, but is effectively a simple solution. the regular supermicro server boards are known to work well. the x9 series are better tested than the x10s. but the x10s should work. also the supermicro d5xx work fine. Arisawa wrote: look http://plan9.aichi-u.ac.jp/hardware/ Very handfull. Steve Simon wrote: At home I run... That confirm the usual list of known working hardware. Thanks a lot for the various answers. Reading them, I believe that: 1) It's not possible to chainload plan9 when the firmware is uefi. But someone wrote me off list that «most uefi firmware also includes bios», and apparently, that is the case of the supermicro boards (their documentation seems to mention uefi boot as an option, and not as the default). that's the case for everything i've tried, but perhaps that's not a representive sample. 2) C2000 sata soc and i354 ethernet controllers are not known working yet. should be working with 9atom. 3) There's not so much hope to see a port for another arm board than the raspberry pi and the trimslice soon. that's news to me. - erik
