Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread john
>> I wouldn't usually do this, as I know this isn't e-bay, :) but since access >> to non-x86 hardware is being discussed... > > seeing that gumstix has been mentioned... > > sitting on my desk is an assembled gumstix (no chassis) that had been > intended to be my wearable plan9 terminal. > > m

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread Nick LaForge
> I wouldn't usually do this, as I know this isn't e-bay, :) but since access > to non-x86 hardware is being discussed... seeing that gumstix has been mentioned... sitting on my desk is an assembled gumstix (no chassis) that had been intended to be my wearable plan9 terminal. my idea was to ru

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Dec 18 19:43:11 EST 2008, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:22 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > it's got x86 post codes on the front panel! > > > > but 3 digits right? 50% more POST! i never saw one with three digits, but i think a third digit would give you 1600% more

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:22 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > it's got x86 post codes on the front panel! > but 3 digits right? 50% more POST! ron

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread erik quanstrom
> > I wouldn't usually do this, as I know this isn't e-bay, :) but since access > > to non-x86 hardware is being discussed... > > > > would anyone be interested in an IBM p630 (POWER4+)? > > > > -Ben > > Only if I don't have to port Plan 9 to it ;) it's got x86 post codes on the front panel!

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread john
> I wouldn't usually do this, as I know this isn't e-bay, :) but since access > to non-x86 hardware is being discussed... > > would anyone be interested in an IBM p630 (POWER4+)? > > -Ben Only if I don't have to port Plan 9 to it ;) John

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I wouldn't usually do this, as I know this isn't e-bay, :) but since access to non-x86 hardware is being discussed... would anyone be interested in an IBM p630 (POWER4+)? -Ben <>

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
we already have a device. In fact, Enrique is working on the ethernet driver for Inferno. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Iruata Souza wrote: > till there, if you want to try something in software take a look at > http://bitmux.org/qemu.html. > i talked once to ron about porting to the gumstix

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread Steve Simon
> I´m done with some usb stuff I´m doing we at lsub plan to port plan 9 > to gumstix. excellent, I will buy one and join in once you chose a device. -Steve

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread Iruata Souza
till there, if you want to try something in software take a look at http://bitmux.org/qemu.html. i talked once to ron about porting to the gumstix as a gsoc project i'd be willing to do. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Steve Simon wrote: >> I´m done with some usb stuff I´m doing we at lsub plan

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread john
>> i think that would be great, too but i can't think of any >> arm platforms that are competitive. any suggestions? > > it depends in large part what "competitive" means, of course. most of > the ARM stuff i'm aware of is handheld or embedded, where intel > architectures have a really hard time

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread Anthony Sorace
> i think that would be great, too but i can't think of any > arm platforms that are competitive. any suggestions? it depends in large part what "competitive" means, of course. most of the ARM stuff i'm aware of is handheld or embedded, where intel architectures have a really hard time being "com

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread john
> Well, I don´t know if it qualifies as a moderm arm platform, but once > I´m done with some usb stuff I´m doing we at lsub plan to port plan 9 > to gumstix. > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:21 PM, ron minnich wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:12 PM, wrote: I can help the DS10L. 1

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
Well, I don´t know if it qualifies as a moderm arm platform, but once I´m done with some usb stuff I´m doing we at lsub plan to port plan 9 to gumstix. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:21 PM, ron minnich wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:12 PM, wrote: >>> I can help the DS10L. >>> >>> 1. open window

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread C H Forsyth
>Instead of fixing the port of alpha, write >a couple device drivers; find an x86 itch and scratch it. that sounds like a plan

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread erik quanstrom
> go with the arm. The problem is that time is short, we have few > people, and putting lots of time into a dead machine really helps no > one. > > The ARM is incredibly popular, wider usage than x86 from what I know, > and much more interesting. I think an ARM port to modern ARM platform > would

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread john
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:12 PM, wrote: >>> I can help the DS10L. >>> >>> 1. open window >>> 2. look out, make sure no one is in the areas >>> 3. slide DS10L out window >> >> Sure, but how do you "keep Plan 9 honest" if no one checks >> portability? >> > > The Alpha is dead. It never ran 64-bi

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:12 PM, wrote: >> I can help the DS10L. >> >> 1. open window >> 2. look out, make sure no one is in the areas >> 3. slide DS10L out window > > Sure, but how do you "keep Plan 9 honest" if no one checks > portability? > The Alpha is dead. It never ran 64-bit anyway. What

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread John Waters
I would have opted for the obvious firearms-related solution. :) On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:19 AM, ron minnich wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Nolan Hamilton > wrote: >> Well apparently plan9 runs on alpha, but I can not get plan9 to run on my >> DS10L. Can anyone help? >> > > I can he

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread Charles Forsyth
>Forsyth pointed out that there are no mere mortal accessible [powerpc] >platforms >for experimentation in this direction. certainly the (few) cheap ones that i knew have vanished. there probably are conventional "development boards" but those are typically too expensive to be helpful. the situat

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread lucio
> So I take it that you cant use plan9 on a DS10L? Back to earth, I suppose :-) I don't know the answer, but I suspect that if no one presents you with a solution, it means you need to do the porting work yourself. You will get assistance, but in my limited experience and knowledge it is hard to

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread Nolan Hamilton
So I take it that you cant use plan9 on a DS10L? If you can though please tell me.

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread erik quanstrom
> PS: This is a bit of a call for interest in architectures other than > the 386, no matter how much Ron tries to discourage it. Hey, why > should I not be able to test the BG code at home?! :-) what other architectures? i'm not aware of anything price/performance-competitive with intel with a

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-17 Thread lucio
> Because we unworthy dirty masses should not bother with what we are > not supposed to be interested in. This is getting tedious. Have you considered psychotherapy for your paranoia? And what exactly is it that is being denied to you and you deem to be your undeniable right? ++L

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:12 AM, wrote: >> I can help the DS10L. >> >> 1. open window >> 2. look out, make sure no one is in the areas >> 3. slide DS10L out window > > Sure, but how do you "keep Plan 9 honest" if no one checks > portability? Don't worry. The holy keepers of the amd64 kernel do t

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-17 Thread lucio
> I can help the DS10L. > > 1. open window > 2. look out, make sure no one is in the areas > 3. slide DS10L out window Sure, but how do you "keep Plan 9 honest" if no one checks portability? In fact, it's already very hard to find porting opportunities for Plan 9, regretfully. An example I rais

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-17 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Nolan Hamilton wrote: > Well apparently plan9 runs on alpha, but I can not get plan9 to run on my > DS10L. Can anyone help? > I can help the DS10L. 1. open window 2. look out, make sure no one is in the areas 3. slide DS10L out window now that was easy! Of cou

[9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-17 Thread Nolan Hamilton
Well apparently plan9 runs on alpha, but I can not get plan9 to run on my DS10L. Can anyone help?