Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:54:20AM +0200, vvs...@gmail.com wrote: If you didn't already know, then it could tell you something: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz All this tells us is that wealth doesn't cure clinical depression. khm

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
All this tells us is that wealth doesn't cure clinical depression. I wasn't aware that he was suffering from it. Any evidence?

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread Calvin Morrison
On 18 March 2013 09:34, vvs...@gmail.com wrote: All this tells us is that wealth doesn't cure clinical depression. I wasn't aware that he was suffering from it. Any evidence? The government killed him. Now put on your tin foil hats and march in single file.

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 03:34:38PM +0200, vvs...@gmail.com wrote: All this tells us is that wealth doesn't cure clinical depression. I wasn't aware that he was suffering from it. Any evidence? http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/verysick Glad you're looking into this. Let me know what you find

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/verysick Glad you're looking into this. Let me know what you find out. Being sick and feeling depressed because of it isn't considered as clinical. There should be better evidence than that. And it misses a point: there is no evidence, that if there weren't

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2013/3/18 vvs...@gmail.com: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/verysick Glad you're looking into this. Let me know what you find out. Being sick and feeling depressed because of it isn't considered as clinical. There should be better evidence than that. And it misses a point: there is no

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 04:46:59PM +0200, vvs...@gmail.com wrote: Being sick and feeling depressed because of it isn't considered as clinical. There should be better evidence than that. And it misses a point: there is no evidence, that if there weren't unsubstantiated criminal charges

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
Your argument is unfalsifiable. There is no evidence that if it hadn't happened, it wouldn't have happened at all, other than the fact he hadn't killed himself before he killed himself. You are right of course. And you should note, that the opposite is unfalsifiable also. But the scientific

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
So your thesis here is that mycroft may kill himself if someone files criminal charges against him for using plan 9? That's nonsense. It was meant as an example of someone who ruined his life by engaging in unwise activities. Sapienti sat. It's refreshing to be reminded that even 9fans is a

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread Matthew Veety
On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:51, vvs...@gmail.com wrote: Your argument is unfalsifiable. There is no evidence that if it hadn't happened, it wouldn't have happened at all, other than the fact he hadn't killed himself before he killed himself. You are right of course. And you should note, that

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread Laurent Malvert
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 9:14 PM, mycrof...@sphericalharmony.com wrote: John Floren wrote: [what everybody thought, in about 140 chars] [another 2K chars rant] (I'll give a shot to the 2K chars approach thing) mycroftiv, I don't think Floren was denying that you are trying to make the

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
Whatever magic you used to do that, please stop it, it's giving us the creeps. I think I figured that one out. It's a humane attitude, which is lacking on this list. People are not computers, they need to put their personal insight into discussion to keep them as a community. May be that's the

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 08:19:20PM +0200, vvs...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever magic you used to do that, please stop it, it's giving us the creeps. I think I figured that one out. It's a humane attitude, which is lacking on this list. People are not computers, they need to put their personal

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread Laurent Malvert
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 7:19 PM, vvs...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever magic you used to do that, please stop it, it's giving us the creeps. I think I figured that one out. It's a humane attitude, which is lacking on this list. People are not computers, they need to put their personal insight

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
Thank god, after all these years, someone finally figured out The Main Problem For Plan 9. Now, at last, we can begin the healing process. You overacting and it's unconvincing. But keep trying, next time it could be better :)

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 08:31:37PM +0200, vvs...@gmail.com wrote: Thank god, after all these years, someone finally figured out The Main Problem For Plan 9. Now, at last, we can begin the healing process. You overacting and it's unconvincing. But keep trying, next time it could be better

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
I can't handle this criticism. Are you attempting to commit negligent homicide? No, no. Suicide, I presume? Don't count on it. But I'm relieving you from any responsibility, just in case.

[9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-17 Thread mycroftiv
John Floren wrote: But can you cut it out with the fucking nuclear meltdowns all over this list? And fix your email client so it replies to threads properly? No, I am not giving up, and I am going to take this a lot further. In fact, it is very clear to me what the absolute purpose of my life

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-17 Thread Nick LaForge
Plan 9 was (and perhaps always will be?) ahead of it's time. In addition, though, it's really the minimalist aesthetic that has made it far outlast most other academic software. All that intelligent thought really did work to drastically raise the signal to noise ratio of every aspect of the

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-17 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 02:25:27PM -0700, Nick LaForge wrote: As of now, you could probably make the analogy that your emails have been to GNU cat as everyone else's are to /sys/src/cmd/cat.c. I choose to interpret this to mean you think millions of people use mycroft's messages every day,

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-17 Thread Nick LaForge
Content aside, the brevity of your message also supports the actual, intended meaning of what I wrote. On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 02:25:27PM -0700, Nick LaForge wrote: As of now, you could probably make the analogy that your

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-17 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 02:58:03PM -0700, Nick LaForge wrote: Content aside, the brevity of your message also supports the actual, intended meaning of what I wrote. I begin to suspect 'content aside' is the prevailing attitude on 9fans. khm

Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-17 Thread Tassilo Philipp
John Floren wrote: But can you cut it out with the fucking nuclear meltdowns all over this list? And fix your email client so it replies to threads properly? No, I am not giving up, and I am going to take this a lot further. With all respect and appreciation for your mission - if you