Re: [9fans] Load spikes on intervals in qemu

2010-08-18 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Aug 17 14:32:01 EDT 2010, eri...@gmail.com wrote: qemu disk emulation isn't exactly speedy, and fossil probably bangs on the disk pretty hard and from the sounds of things its treating the disk access as synchronous (which is why everything else freezes up). The two combined together is

Re: [9fans] Load spikes on intervals in qemu

2010-08-18 Thread erik quanstrom
Its worth noting that you can do the same thing with the native 9p servers for linux (u9fs, spfs, or npfs). Alternatively you could run a AOE vblade server, or a p9p venti (although you'd still need a solution for the fossil disk, but a ramdisk might be the best solution here for speed). It

Re: [9fans] Load spikes on intervals in qemu

2010-08-18 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:42 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: why cant fossil also use vblade? I thought I covered that by saying you could run an AOE vblade server (by which I meant to imply you could run any of the available file systems over AOE or venti), but perhaps I

Re: [9fans] Load spikes on intervals in qemu

2010-08-18 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:37 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Brad Frank brad.fr...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, doing those things would be an alternative. But the bigger question is why is fossil hitting the load like that while running in Qemu. And

Re: [9fans] Load spikes on intervals in qemu

2010-08-18 Thread Venkatesh Srinivas
virtio is available in vanilla qemu nowadays. Why do you want to run your file server in qemu anyway, though? For snapshots, I use dump9660 on my host, coupled with inferno; u9fs would work just as well. -- vs

Re: [9fans] Load spikes on intervals in qemu

2010-08-18 Thread erik quanstrom
virtio is available in vanilla qemu nowadays. Why do you want to run your file server in qemu anyway, though? For snapshots, I use dump9660 on my host, coupled with inferno; u9fs would work just as well. that depends on what your goals are. if your goal is to have a plan 9 environment

[9fans] Load spikes on intervals in qemu

2010-08-18 Thread Brad Frank
Well, it is also important to note that I am getting these spikes on qemu while the emulator is essentially idling. There really should be no reason it should be hitting the virtual disk like that repeatedly on intervals. Is there no other explanation for why it would be doing that?

[9fans] Load spikes on intervals in qemu

2010-08-17 Thread Brad Frank
Hi, I recently did a clean install of plan9 on qemu on linux. I've noticed that the load is spiking on an interval every 30 seconds or something like that. I looked at suggestions that it might be venti and timesync. But it couldn't be venti because I didn't install venti, I have a fossil only

Re: [9fans] Load spikes on intervals in qemu

2010-08-17 Thread Venkatesh Srinivas
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Brad Frank brad.fr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I recently did a clean install of plan9 on qemu on linux. I've noticed that the load is spiking on an interval every 30 seconds or something like that. I looked at suggestions that it might be venti and timesync. But

Re: [9fans] Load spikes on intervals in qemu

2010-08-17 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Venkatesh Srinivas m...@acm.jhu.edu wrote: I run Plan 9 in qemu, but I run neither fossil nor any other (major) disk file server in qemu. Instead, I have Inferno on my host serve files to Plan 9. To accomplish this: 1) I installed Plan 9, as normal, into a

[9fans] Load spikes on intervals in qemu

2010-08-17 Thread Brad Frank
Yes, doing those things would be an alternative. But the bigger question is why is fossil hitting the load like that while running in Qemu. And also, another question is whether this would be happening on physical hardware as well... Is there anything I can do to figure out why it is doing that,

Re: [9fans] Load spikes on intervals in qemu

2010-08-17 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
qemu disk emulation isn't exactly speedy, and fossil probably bangs on the disk pretty hard and from the sounds of things its treating the disk access as synchronous (which is why everything else freezes up). The two combined together is not something you want to deal with. FWIW, on my system I