I have had a look, found a copy of the doc from 1996 and failed to reproduce
the problem.
I withdraw the accusation - tbl you are without bugs.
Sorry for the noise.
BTW: for troff related stuff I should mention http://www.troff.org is a good
resource.
-Steve
On Thu Aug 14 02:55:58 EDT 2014, st...@quintile.net wrote:
I have had a look, found a copy of the doc from 1996 and failed to reproduce
the problem.
I withdraw the accusation - tbl you are without bugs.
but there are some font bugs that cause the small errors when converting to ps.
e.g.:
Hello,
I'm somewhat disappointed about the troff software in Plan9.
Yes, that's understandable...
It seems to me nobody actually uses the software heavily here.
I did few initial tests with eqn(1) and in addition to the TAB problem
I saw that the root sign line and large brackets are not
Dear Carsten,
first, I don't understand German (I am Czech), but I used google translate,
hopefully getting the meaning.
Second, it's generally better (unless it's really personal or highly technical)
to keep the discussion within the mailing list, since then other people
can also contribute; I
sorry, i am unable to help with this specific problem. i only
use the ms macros and use tex for anything more.
however, just fyi:
Further there is a licencing issue on (I think) Lucida fonts
(which can be only used on p9 but not on p9p),
the license for the lucida* fonts prohibits the
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 03:30:37AM -0700, c...@9.squish.org wrote:
sorry, i am unable to help with this specific problem. i only
use the ms macros and use tex for anything more.
Does anyone know if there has been any effort to use TeX and al. for the
system typesetting i.e. the manpages
first, I don't understand German (I am Czech), but I used google translate,
hopefully getting the meaning.
Sorry for that!
Second, it's generally better (unless it's really personal or highly
technical)
to keep the discussion within the mailing list, since then other people
can also
On 13 August 2014 12:57, Carsten Kunze carsten.ku...@arcor.de wrote:
Since nobody seems to use troff on P9 I regarded it as off-topic.
The traffic is low enough to discuss any matter related to p9(p) here,
I believe. And it can be used as a back-reference in the future.
http://9fans.net/archive/?q=sykora+eqngo=Grep
I can't believe that TeX should not produce better results, but
thats really OT...
I don't understand what you mean.
I refer to http://9fans.net/archive/2011/12/113. I would expect
TeX to produce the best math results. But this should not
Does anyone know if there has been any effort to use TeX and al. for the
system typesetting i.e. the manpages and docs? (Translation of the troff
macros to TeX ones etc.---not to mention that for TeX (kerTeX), it needs
to be converted for utf-8 input; that's on my TODO list but I need to
On 13 August 2014 14:16, Carsten Kunze carsten.ku...@arcor.de wrote:
http://9fans.net/archive/?q=sykora+eqngo=Grep
I can't believe that TeX should not produce better results, but
thats really OT...
I don't understand what you mean.
I refer to http://9fans.net/archive/2011/12/113. I
Still I don't get what you mean. In that message we say
1) quality of TeX typesetting is better,
2) the way the equation is written (the syntax) in eqn feels
better to me.
Ok, I got that wrong.
Just to be sure. I don't mean readability of documents to be typeset.
I mean the source code of
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 02:22:00PM +0200, Carsten Kunze wrote:
Is this really necessary for the system documentation? AFAIK P9 nroff/troff
can handle utf-8. If there are problems with *roff they should be solved.
*roff is a Bell Labs documentation system--it should be used for P9--IMO.
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 03:13:38PM +0200, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
Just to be sure. I don't mean readability of documents to be typeset.
I mean the source code of the whole system. I.e., in the case of LaTeX,
the readability/understanding/hackability of the macros' definitions.
And this links
I'd rather say that p9p software is the source these days.
I wouldn't agree, p9p is a fork, much stuff gets ported both ways,
though some changes may have been missed.
I still use troff and tbl on plan9, occasionally I use eqn, last week
for the first time in ages.
I know there are some bugs
I still use troff and tbl on plan9, occasionally I use eqn, last week
for the first time in ages.
What are the bugs in tbl you found? (I think it had been you who mentioned
it.)
I know there are some bugs but I find it much easier to generate a simple
document in troff than with MS Word,
What are the bugs in tbl you found?
Mmm, I was worried you might ask that. I have an old document
that used to layout incorrectly, however I just tried it and it
is now fine - I wonder if the bug has been fixed ☺
The problem I had was a small - 1/23 inch, misalignment of
vertical edges of
Mmm, I was worried you might ask that.
:-)
I will dig through my venti and see if I can find an old copy
which exhibits the problem...
Ok. If possible the lines between .TS/.TE to reproduce it (you may change the
text if its confidential).
--Carsten
Hello,
I'm somewhat disappointed about the troff software in Plan9.
I did few initial tests with eqn(1) and in addition to the TAB problem I saw
that the root sign line and large brackets are not aligned. The attached file
shows these problems. It can be processed to PostScript with
eqn
It is a shame if there are bugs in eqn - tbl has one or two also
but the source is there and it is all fixable. You could submit a patch.
You mention the DWB eqn (neqn I assume) - the plan9 eqn is (i believe)
a direct descendent of that and the solaris one a cousin so by comparing
code the bug
There are several plan9 repositories as there are several distribuitions,
however I am pretty sure all these keep in sync with the labs (bell labs)
code so I would suggest you start with that (unless somone else on this list
shouts).
from plan9 its just a case of:
9fs sources
ls
It is a shame if there are bugs in eqn - tbl has one or two also
but the source is there and it is all fixable. You could submit a patch.
I'm working on it. But not just eqn--on a DWB port in general (to current
UNIX versions). So it may take some time but I'll work on a fix.
Is there a
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