On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, at 1:10 PM, hiro wrote:
> > developing new, non-unix operating systems
>
> which?
Google's Fuschia, Huawei's Harmony.
Besides, hobbyist interest in operating systems seems as alive as ever.
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> developing new, non-unix operating systems
which?
On 9/1/20, Ethan Gardener wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, at 10:30 PM, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
>> > I really don't understand why Plan 9 has not been adopted. Legacy base?
>>
>> Porting software is expensive and time consuming. Unix
>>
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, at 10:30 PM, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
> > I really don't understand why Plan 9 has not been adopted. Legacy base?
>
> Porting software is expensive and time consuming. Unix
> mostly works. On top of that, Unix has many features.
> Bolted on in ways that don't fit, but
On Saturday, 29 August 2020, at 6:01 PM, Lucas Francesco wrote:
> Leo, best of luck on the distro though, I'd really like 9 to be niche-popular
> but I don't think translating stuff is the way to go, if it wasn't for covid
> I was going to start lecturing about it at the uni I'm in but with
On Sunday, 30 August 2020, at 10:32 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> No we don't. We like to claim we do, but really we're just pretending
prior training is intuition. It's fine if you want software that works
the way you're used to, but let's not pretend it's natural law, please.
Friendly on average
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 09:29:01PM -0400, Leonardo wrote:
> > User-friendliness is difficult to establish precisely.
> Yes, it's an abstract and subjective thing, but on average we know what is.
No we don't. We like to claim we do, but really we're just pretending
prior training is intuition.
> Wouldn't that be true for any software that somehow diverges from the
conventional/mainstream practices?
That's true for common people, indeed.
> User-friendliness is difficult to establish precisely.
Yes, it's an abstract and subjective thing, but on average we know what is.
For example,
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 6:54 PM Leonardo wrote:
>
> On Saturday, 29 August 2020, at 4:55 PM, Iruatã Souza wrote:
>
> As another historical note, for a number of years (2006 to 2009 iirc) Plan 9
> reached the peak of 3 regular users in Brazil. Others came and went, but
> those 3 are responsible
On Saturday, 29 August 2020, at 4:55 PM, Iruatã Souza wrote:
> As another historical note, for a number of years (2006 to 2009 iirc) Plan 9
> reached the peak of 3 regular users in Brazil. Others came and went, but
> those 3 are responsible for at least abaco, the initial python port, and the
>
Le sam. 29 août 2020 à 23:02, Lucas Francesco
a écrit :
> I think we're way beyond the peak of 3 if consider non 9labs, as I'm a
> brazillian myself and have been using 9front for almost 2y, and have been
> slowly introducing my brother and my current mate to it.
>
I'm glad to hear that! The 3
Le sam. 29 août 2020 à 23:21, Lucas Francesco
a écrit :
> >As another historical note, for a number of years (2006 to 2009 iirc)
> Plan 9 reached the peak of 3 regular users in Brazil. Others came and went,
> but those 3 are responsible for at least abaco, the initial python port,
> and the
> I really don't understand why Plan 9 has not been adopted. Legacy base?
Porting software is expensive and time consuming. Unix
mostly works. On top of that, Unix has many features.
Bolted on in ways that don't fit, but features that
aren't provided by Plan 9 tools, nonetheless.
When given a
>As another historical note, for a number of years (2006 to 2009 iirc) Plan 9
>reached the peak of 3 regular users in Brazil. Others came and went, but those
>3 are responsible for at least abaco, the initial python port, and the initial
>work into what is now the 9front bootloader.
Also
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 01:43:49PM -0400, Wes Kussmaul wrote:
>
> On 8/29/20 1:25 PM, Leonardo wrote:
> > I really don't understand why Plan 9 has not been adopted. Legacy base?
>
> By giving a lot of control to the user Plan 9 and its derivatives
> undermine the Silicon Valley business model,
I think we're way beyond the peak of 3 if consider non 9labs, as I'm a
brazillian myself and have been using 9front for almost 2y, and have been
slowly introducing my brother and my current mate to it.
Leo, best of luck on the distro though, I'd really like 9 to be
niche-popular but I don't think
Le sam. 29 août 2020 à 19:26, Leonardo a écrit :
> Cool!
>
> I want to make a Plan 9 distro aimed at brazilians: I'm at the beginning
> of this journey. My plan is to translate all the documentation (articles
> and man pages), try to make the system more user friendly (not for hackers
> but for
On 8/29/20 2:36 PM, Leonardo wrote:
Metcapitalism, an evil even worse than socialism: this is why the
technology giants have also become ideology giants.
There is a way to shut off the water supply to metacapitalism.
This is off topic here, so email me if you want to have this discussion.
Metcapitalism, an evil even worse than socialism: this is why the technology
giants have also become ideology giants.
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On 8/29/20 1:25 PM, Leonardo wrote:
I really don't understand why Plan 9 has not been adopted. Legacy base?
By giving a lot of control to the user Plan 9 and its derivatives
undermine the Silicon Valley business model, which is built upon
breaking into your information home, taking your
Cool!
I want to make a Plan 9 distro aimed at brazilians: I'm at the beginning of
this journey. My plan is to translate all the documentation (articles and man
pages), try to make the system more user friendly (not for hackers but for
common people) and also work in ordinary software like a
That is very cool!
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 4:54 AM Iruatã Souza wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For the Plan 9 historians/archaeologists, yesterday I found this
> https://archive.org/details/Geek008.
>
> Geek was a very popular monthly magazine distributed with a CD packed
> with software.
> This was 2002
Hi,
For the Plan 9 historians/archaeologists, yesterday I found this
https://archive.org/details/Geek008.
Geek was a very popular monthly magazine distributed with a CD packed
with software.
This was 2002 and dial-up internet was still the norm in Brazil. As
far as I know, this is how Plan 9 was
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