Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
Hi Shane, I just tried an installation from scratch of 9atom - downloaded the ISO from Quanstro.net, installed on VirtualBox 4.3.12 on Mavericks 10.9.3 accepting the defaults as far as possible. It all installed fine and booted fine. I've not had time to setup networking etc. but it certainly doesn't hang as you describe. I have noticed that the 'default install' doesn't seem to work if installing on a virtual hard disk that already has plan9 on it (in my case installing 9atom over the labs version, it didn't seem to actually do anything and booted back to the labs distro) . Did you start from a fresh HD this time? I can send you my 9atom.vbox (the XML config file) separately if you want. Pete On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi 9fans, I am running the latest VirtualBox on the latest Mavericks, and after an install of 9atom, go to run the resulting image, and execution stops at the /bin/rc command, just before entry into Rio. I noticed this same problem on my Macbook Air on 10.8 - I thought I had just botched my previous image, it appears not. All settings should be correct to what the pertinent blogs say the settings should be (ie, IDE hard drive, 1000MT Server network card, etc). Any help, criticism, explanations, etc, are most welcome! Shane.
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
Why do people insist on VirtualBox? How many times it has to be said. VirtualBox is utter shite. QEMU and VMware work. QEMU is especially interesting because it can work without a broken kernel driver (although it can use kvm, a good kernel driver on Linux). -- Aram Hăvărneanu
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
Aram Hăvărneanu I don’t know who you are but you seem to be in a very bad mood today. From: Aram Hăvărneanu Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 11:54 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Why do people insist on VirtualBox? How many times it has to be said. VirtualBox is utter shite. QEMU and VMware work. QEMU is especially interesting because it can work without a broken kernel driver (although it can use kvm, a good kernel driver on Linux). -- Aram Hăvărneanu
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
On Thu May 22 06:55:44 EDT 2014, ara...@mgk.ro wrote: Why do people insist on VirtualBox? How many times it has to be said. VirtualBox is utter shite. QEMU and VMware work. QEMU is especially interesting because it can work without a broken kernel driver (although it can use kvm, a good kernel driver on Linux). because they're using osx, and don't want to shell out for vmware. - erik
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
because they're using osx, and don't want to shell out for vmware. QEMU works on OS X. -- Aram Hăvărneanu
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
On May 22, 2014, at 8:05 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: because they're using osx, and don't want to shell out for vmware. QEMU works on OS X. If by ‘works’ you mean the an ancient version that doesn’t really run well on OS X 10.9.x, then sure. So far, I’ve not gotten a version of qemu to build on OS X that would support Plan 9 or any other OS I’m interesting in testing. -jas
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
If by ‘works’ you mean the an ancient version that doesn’t really run well on OS X 10.9.x, then sure. So far, I’ve not gotten a version of qemu to build on OS X that would support Plan 9 or any other OS I’m interesting in testing. I have both 1.6.1 and 2.0 on 10.9 (the latest). 1.6.1 is not ancient and I didn't even need to compile it. Plan 9 runs just fine. 2.0 I compiled because I needed the new arm64 support. It wasn't hard. -- Aram Hăvărneanu
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
➜ ~ brew info qemu qemu: stable 2.0.0, HEAD http://www.qemu.org/ /usr/local/Cellar/qemu/1.5.1 (114 files, 90M) Built from source /usr/local/Cellar/qemu/2.0.0_1 (120 files, 98M) * Built from source From: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/commits/master/Library/Formula/qemu.rb == Dependencies Build: pkg-config ✔, libtool ✔ Required: jpeg ✔, gnutls ✔, glib ✔, pixman ✔ Optional: vde ✘, sdl ✘ == Options --with-sdl Build with sdl support --with-vde Build with vde support --HEAD install HEAD version On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.comwrote: On May 22, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: I have both 1.6.1 and 2.0 on 10.9 (the latest). 1.6.1 is not ancient and I didn't even need to compile it. Plan 9 runs just fine. 2.0 I compiled because I needed the new arm64 support. It wasn't hard. What’s your Mac OS X build environment? Are you using some ports tree to get all the dependencies required by qemu? A stock OS X 10.9.3 with Xcode (with clang et al) won’t build qemu because, well, … it doesn’t build. -jas
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
On May 22, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Rubén Berenguel ru...@mostlymaths.net wrote: From: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/commits/master/Library/Formula/qemu.rb Ah, ruby, yet another technology I have zero use for on my systems. -jas
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
It's homebrew, a package repository for OS X. OS X already comes with a ruby interpreter anyway. And this allows anyone to compile from source qemu 2.0.0 without much fuss. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.comwrote: On May 22, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Rubén Berenguel ru...@mostlymaths.net wrote: From: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/commits/master/Library/Formula/qemu.rb Ah, ruby, yet another technology I have zero use for on my systems. -jas
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
On May 22, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: On May 22, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Rubén Berenguel ru...@mostlymaths.net wrote: From: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/commits/master/Library/Formula/qemu.rb Ah, ruby, yet another technology I have zero use for on my systems. And the link returns: Sorry, this commit history is taking too long to generate. -jas
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
Ah, ruby, yet another technology I have zero use for on my systems. That technology is already installed on your system. -- Aram Hăvărneanu
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
On May 22, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: Ah, ruby, yet another technology I have zero use for on my systems. That technology is already installed on your system. And not used. Wasted bits on the ssd. http://hadihariri.com/2014/04/21/build-make-no-more/
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
Aram, if you have a bunch of settings that work under VMWare Fusion for Plan 9, then I am all ears. I was under the understanding Plan 9 didn't work under VMWare... On 5/23/14, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: On May 22, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: Ah, ruby, yet another technology I have zero use for on my systems. That technology is already installed on your system. And not used. Wasted bits on the ssd. http://hadihariri.com/2014/04/21/build-make-no-more/
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
On Thu May 22 17:25:07 EDT 2014, edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: Aram, if you have a bunch of settings that work under VMWare Fusion for Plan 9, then I am all ears. I was under the understanding Plan 9 didn't work under VMWare... the second thing the nix terminal ran on was vmware. i just have not it much. - erik
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
I was under the understanding Plan 9 didn't work under VMWare... http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/vmware/img/fusion.png sl
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
Ok, I stand corrected. On 5/23/14, s...@9front.org s...@9front.org wrote: I was under the understanding Plan 9 didn't work under VMWare... http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/vmware/img/fusion.png sl
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
Just booted the VM using WLAN and my phones wireless hotspot, came up almost instantly. Now the real work begins - configuration... On 5/23/14, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I stand corrected. On 5/23/14, s...@9front.org s...@9front.org wrote: I was under the understanding Plan 9 didn't work under VMWare... http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/vmware/img/fusion.png sl
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
Ok, I stand corrected. Off topic, sorry. I saw this phrase some times here. What it does mean? I know it's meaning I think. What I want to know is why they say just 'thanks'. Is this something some culture related? Kenji
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
On May 22, 2014 10:18:32 PM EDT, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: Ok, I stand corrected. Off topic, sorry. I saw this phrase some times here. What it does mean? I know it's meaning I think. What I want to know is why they say just 'thanks'. Is this something some culture related? Kenji It's an old phrase, basically shorthand for I was wrong, you were correct, thanks for the correction.
Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
Hi Kenji, As Joseph said, shorthand for Thanks for correcting me on that, and giving me the knowledge I needed, or that I asked for... It is probably a Western-ism, a cultural thing of America/ United Kingdom/ Australia, if not others. I've been using it since I could talk, and started asking the big questions as to Why is it so...? Is it like this? No? I stand corrected... Many thanks! On 5/23/14, Joseph Thompson jthompso...@student.gsu.edu wrote: On May 22, 2014 10:18:32 PM EDT, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: Ok, I stand corrected. Off topic, sorry. I saw this phrase some times here. What it does mean? I know it's meaning I think. What I want to know is why they say just 'thanks'. Is this something some culture related? Kenji It's an old phrase, basically shorthand for I was wrong, you were correct, thanks for the correction.
[9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9
Hi 9fans, I am running the latest VirtualBox on the latest Mavericks, and after an install of 9atom, go to run the resulting image, and execution stops at the /bin/rc command, just before entry into Rio. I noticed this same problem on my Macbook Air on 10.8 - I thought I had just botched my previous image, it appears not. All settings should be correct to what the pertinent blogs say the settings should be (ie, IDE hard drive, 1000MT Server network card, etc). Any help, criticism, explanations, etc, are most welcome! Shane.
