Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list

2014-08-13 Thread John Francis Lee
The reason things are so insecure is because the US government likes it that 
way, desinged it that way and does everything it can to keep it that way. They 
are the beyond a doubt the biggest gang of organized criminals on earth : 
liars, murderers, spies ... you name it.

Thanks for welcoming me to the list ... but I see you use google yourself ... 
second only to the US government as spies ... soon to surpass, I'm sure. I use 
yahoo trash mail for the list because I'd like to keep my 'real' email address 
to myself (when I find one). You deliver all your correspondents's mail to the 
googleplex along with your own. You have a choice ... but you foreclose your 
correspondents' ... if they want to correspond with you. Google has it all.

--
This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies 
including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of 
sender or recipient.

John Francis Lee
246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai
T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000
Thailand


On Wed, 8/6/14, Nick LaForge nicklafo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list
 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net
 Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 10:16 AM
 
 And, today
 especially, that advice applies to everybody:
 
 
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breach-highlights-widespread-security-flaws
 
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at
 5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  You must know your password
 to change your options (including changing
 
  the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:
 
 
 
    3224522
 
 
 
 
 
 please change your password for this mailing list.
 this one is out in public.
 
 
 
 i hope you aren't reusing passwords.
 
 
 
 




Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list

2014-08-13 Thread Shane Morris
You should amend that This message has been intercepted and read by U.S.
government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or
warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient. with something about shadowy
Goggle like computers feltching information on your spending habits...

The world changed on us Marty - and without our help, I might add...


On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM, John Francis Lee jf...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The reason things are so insecure is because the US government likes it
 that way, desinged it that way and does everything it can to keep it that
 way. They are the beyond a doubt the biggest gang of organized criminals on
 earth : liars, murderers, spies ... you name it.

 Thanks for welcoming me to the list ... but I see you use google yourself
 ... second only to the US government as spies ... soon to surpass, I'm
 sure. I use yahoo trash mail for the list because I'd like to keep my
 'real' email address to myself (when I find one). You deliver all your
 correspondents's mail to the googleplex along with your own. You have a
 choice ... but you foreclose your correspondents' ... if they want to
 correspond with you. Google has it all.

 --
 This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies
 including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of
 sender or recipient.

 John Francis Lee
 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai
 T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000
 Thailand

 
 On Wed, 8/6/14, Nick LaForge nicklafo...@gmail.com wrote:

  Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net
  Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 10:16 AM

  And, today
  especially, that advice applies to everybody:


 http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breach-highlights-widespread-security-flaws



  On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at
  5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   You must know your password
  to change your options (including changing

   the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:

  

 3224522

  



  please change your password for this mailing list.
  this one is out in public.



  i hope you aren't reusing passwords.









Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list

2014-08-13 Thread John Francis Lee
sorry ... I didn't realize I was replying to the list ... the email I got came 
from an individual

--
This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies 
including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of 
sender or recipient.

John Francis Lee
246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai
T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000
Thailand


On Wed, 8/13/14, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list
 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net
 Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2014, 2:37 PM
 
 You should
 amend that This message has been
 intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including
 the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge
 of sender or recipient. with something about shadowy
 Goggle like computers feltching information on your spending
 habits...
 
 The world changed on us
 Marty - and without our help, I might
 add...
 
 
 On Wed,
 Aug 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM, John Francis Lee jf...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 The
 reason things are so insecure is because the US government
 likes it that way, desinged it that way and does everything
 it can to keep it that way. They are the beyond a doubt the
 biggest gang of organized criminals on earth : liars,
 murderers, spies ... you name it.
 
 
 
 
 Thanks for welcoming me to the list ... but I see you use
 google yourself ... second only to the US government as
 spies ... soon to surpass, I'm sure. I use yahoo trash
 mail for the list because I'd like to keep my
 'real' email address to myself (when I find one).
 You deliver all your correspondents's mail to the
 googleplex along with your own. You have a choice ... but
 you foreclose your correspondents' ... if they want to
 correspond with you. Google has it all.
 
 
 
 
 --
 
 This message has been intercepted and read by U.S.
 government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without
 notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or
 recipient.
 
 
 
 John Francis Lee
 
 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai
 
 T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000
 
 Thailand
 
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, 8/6/14, Nick LaForge nicklafo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans
 mailing list
 
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
 9fans@9fans.net
 
  Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 10:16 AM
 
 
 
  And, today
 
  especially, that advice applies to everybody:
 
 
 
  
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breach-highlights-widespread-security-flaws
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at
 
  5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
   You must know your password
 
  to change your options (including changing
 
 
 
   the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It
 is:
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
     3224522
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  please change your password for this mailing list.
 
  this one is out in public.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i hope you aren't reusing passwords.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list

2014-08-13 Thread Nick LaForge
The last two comments on this page might be of interest:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7640937

(I found that simply by searching using the 'site' operator on Google:
site:news.ycombinator.com maidsafe news.ycombinator.com is a good
place to read about a given startup.)

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:44 AM, John Francis Lee jf...@yahoo.com wrote:
 sorry ... I didn't realize I was replying to the list ... the email I got 
 came from an individual

 --
 This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies 
 including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of 
 sender or recipient.

 John Francis Lee
 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai
 T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000
 Thailand

 
 On Wed, 8/13/14, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote:

  Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net
  Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2014, 2:37 PM

  You should
  amend that This message has been
  intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including
  the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge
  of sender or recipient. with something about shadowy
  Goggle like computers feltching information on your spending
  habits...

  The world changed on us
  Marty - and without our help, I might
  add...


  On Wed,
  Aug 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM, John Francis Lee jf...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

  The
  reason things are so insecure is because the US government
  likes it that way, desinged it that way and does everything
  it can to keep it that way. They are the beyond a doubt the
  biggest gang of organized criminals on earth : liars,
  murderers, spies ... you name it.




  Thanks for welcoming me to the list ... but I see you use
  google yourself ... second only to the US government as
  spies ... soon to surpass, I'm sure. I use yahoo trash
  mail for the list because I'd like to keep my
  'real' email address to myself (when I find one).
  You deliver all your correspondents's mail to the
  googleplex along with your own. You have a choice ... but
  you foreclose your correspondents' ... if they want to
  correspond with you. Google has it all.




  --

  This message has been intercepted and read by U.S.
  government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without
  notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or
  recipient.



  John Francis Lee

  246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai

  T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000

  Thailand



  

  On Wed, 8/6/14, Nick LaForge nicklafo...@gmail.com
  wrote:



   Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans
  mailing list

   To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
  9fans@9fans.net

   Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 10:16 AM



   And, today

   especially, that advice applies to everybody:



   
 http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breach-highlights-widespread-security-flaws








   On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at

   5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com

   wrote:



You must know your password

   to change your options (including changing



the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It
  is:



   



  3224522



   







   please change your password for this mailing list.

   this one is out in public.







   i hope you aren't reusing passwords.



















Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list

2014-08-13 Thread Nick LaForge
Please ignore my last message.  It was intended for an entirely
different email thread.  How embarrassing.  (At least the SnR was
pretty low to begin with.)



On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Nick LaForge nicklafo...@gmail.com wrote:
 The last two comments on this page might be of interest:

 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7640937

 (I found that simply by searching using the 'site' operator on Google:
 site:news.ycombinator.com maidsafe news.ycombinator.com is a good
 place to read about a given startup.)

 On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:44 AM, John Francis Lee jf...@yahoo.com wrote:
 sorry ... I didn't realize I was replying to the list ... the email I got 
 came from an individual

 --
 This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies 
 including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of 
 sender or recipient.

 John Francis Lee
 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai
 T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000
 Thailand

 
 On Wed, 8/13/14, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote:

  Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net
  Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2014, 2:37 PM

  You should
  amend that This message has been
  intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including
  the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge
  of sender or recipient. with something about shadowy
  Goggle like computers feltching information on your spending
  habits...

  The world changed on us
  Marty - and without our help, I might
  add...


  On Wed,
  Aug 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM, John Francis Lee jf...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

  The
  reason things are so insecure is because the US government
  likes it that way, desinged it that way and does everything
  it can to keep it that way. They are the beyond a doubt the
  biggest gang of organized criminals on earth : liars,
  murderers, spies ... you name it.




  Thanks for welcoming me to the list ... but I see you use
  google yourself ... second only to the US government as
  spies ... soon to surpass, I'm sure. I use yahoo trash
  mail for the list because I'd like to keep my
  'real' email address to myself (when I find one).
  You deliver all your correspondents's mail to the
  googleplex along with your own. You have a choice ... but
  you foreclose your correspondents' ... if they want to
  correspond with you. Google has it all.




  --

  This message has been intercepted and read by U.S.
  government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without
  notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or
  recipient.



  John Francis Lee

  246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai

  T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000

  Thailand



  

  On Wed, 8/6/14, Nick LaForge nicklafo...@gmail.com
  wrote:



   Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans
  mailing list

   To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
  9fans@9fans.net

   Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 10:16 AM



   And, today

   especially, that advice applies to everybody:



   
 http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breach-highlights-widespread-security-flaws








   On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at

   5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com

   wrote:



You must know your password

   to change your options (including changing



the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It
  is:



   



  3224522



   







   please change your password for this mailing list.

   this one is out in public.







   i hope you aren't reusing passwords.



















Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list

2014-08-05 Thread andrey mirtchovski
 You must know your password to change your options (including changing
 the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:

   3224522


please change your password for this mailing list. this one is out in public.

i hope you aren't reusing passwords.



Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list

2014-08-05 Thread Nick LaForge
And, today especially, that advice applies to everybody:

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breach-highlights-widespread-security-flaws


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com
wrote:

  You must know your password to change your options (including changing
  the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:
 
3224522
 

 please change your password for this mailing list. this one is out in
 public.

 i hope you aren't reusing passwords.




Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list

2014-08-01 Thread sl
 I learned about plan9 a couple days ago, and I'm impressed. But I do have a
 couple questions:

A lot of information (a links to more) is collected here:

http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/fqa

sl