Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?
I'm a Unix fan, I use BSD, Minix, Linux, and any unix-like OS I can get my hands on. Why? P.S. The kernel is monolithic. Although, IIRC, there were attempts to make it a hybrid. 2014-06-05 23:33 GMT+03:00 Yoann Padioleau p...@fb.com: Nice! On Jun 4, 2014, at 8:14 PM, s...@9front.org wrote: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/fqa0k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0Ar=%2FN9d7W2LRwZks3eyFNLr8Q%3D%3D%0Am=932ql2s0yZzSIWvDmA7Ow3MAsKVfP6fSFQC%2Fj%2BdntMU%3D%0As=5073da3bad45a50f3d32794c907cb48394fd92ea90ebf6a999b2470190f58110 sl
Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?
P.S. The kernel is monolithic. Although, IIRC, there were attempts to make it a hybrid. this is far from the full story. because of the mount driver, many things may be in the kernel or userland according to what makes sense. for example, the ip stack has moved back and forth several times. the usb interface implementations are in user space. etc. partfs(8) (sic, should be in section 4) and sdloop(3) in 9atom are both loopback drivers that appear to be served through sd(3), but partfs is in userspace and sdloop is in the kernel. likewise, resources can be imported from other machines' kernels or userspace in the same way. for example, i can import a gateway's ip stack and use it directly as if it were local. thus, while the kernel is fairly traditional, the capabilities are not. - erik
Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?
thus, while the kernel is fairly traditional, the capabilities are not. They should be, but tradition is slow to catch on. L.
Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?
On 5 June 2014 06:11, OMAR RADWAN owemeac...@live.com wrote: I just did, though I cannot find anything about the kernel architecture Fortunately, there is a book about it. http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.pdf which might have been updated to 4th Edtion, but the overall structure is similar, although with many improvements.
Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?
On Thu Jun 5 06:36:36 EDT 2014, charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 June 2014 06:11, OMAR RADWAN owemeac...@live.com wrote: I just did, though I cannot find anything about the kernel architecture Fortunately, there is a book about it. http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.pdf which might have been updated to 4th Edtion, but the overall structure is similar, although with many improvements. also, brian's book: http://www.amazon.com/Brian-L.-Stuart/e/B001JS3E00 - erik
Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?
What is it exactly? Just another step on the path to the one true operating system, OS X with Golang.
Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?
Nice! On Jun 4, 2014, at 8:14 PM, s...@9front.org wrote: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/fqa0k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0Ar=%2FN9d7W2LRwZks3eyFNLr8Q%3D%3D%0Am=932ql2s0yZzSIWvDmA7Ow3MAsKVfP6fSFQC%2Fj%2BdntMU%3D%0As=5073da3bad45a50f3d32794c907cb48394fd92ea90ebf6a999b2470190f58110 sl
[9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?
I've been looking at plan9 on the internet and to say the truth, I'm mystified. What is it exactly? Is it meant to totally be better than Unix or any Unix-like system? How so? What kind of kernel does it use?
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http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/fqa0 sl
Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?
Yeah, I'm mystified myself. Is this a troll or a serious enquiry? Trousers rolled. On 5 June 2014 15:10, OMAR RADWAN owemeac...@live.com wrote: I've been looking at plan9 on the internet and to say the truth, I'm mystified. What is it exactly? Is it meant to totally be better than Unix or any Unix-like system? How so? What kind of kernel does it use?
Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?
Trousers rolled. down or up?
Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?
I'm serious. I'm a Unix fan, I use BSD, Minix, Linux, and any unix-like OS I can get my hands on. Sadly, except, System V or HP-UX, or any UNIX. I read about Plan9 online, and it sounds like a great project. Though I do think that if this operating system if made to be better than Unix in every single way, it has to have a better kernel, which is something I am very interested about. What kind of kernel does it use? Why would anyone use it? Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 21:28:50 -0600 From: mirtchov...@gmail.com To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly? Trousers rolled. down or up?
Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?
On Jun 4, 2014 8:39 PM, OMAR RADWAN owemeac...@live.com wrote: I'm serious. I'm a Unix fan, I use BSD, Minix, Linux, and any unix-like OS I can get my hands on. Sadly, except, System V or HP-UX, or any UNIX. I read about Plan9 online, and it sounds like a great project. Though I do think that if this operating system if made to be better than Unix in every single way, it has to have a better kernel, which is something I am very interested about. What kind of kernel does it use? Why would anyone use it? All of this is on the wiki. I'd take some time to sit down and explore for yourself.
Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly?
I just did, though I cannot find anything about the kernel architecture Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 20:47:46 -0700 From: alexander3223...@gmail.com To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] What is Plan9 exactly? On Jun 4, 2014 8:39 PM, OMAR RADWAN owemeac...@live.com wrote: I'm serious. I'm a Unix fan, I use BSD, Minix, Linux, and any unix-like OS I can get my hands on. Sadly, except, System V or HP-UX, or any UNIX. I read about Plan9 online, and it sounds like a great project. Though I do think that if this operating system if made to be better than Unix in every single way, it has to have a better kernel, which is something I am very interested about. What kind of kernel does it use? Why would anyone use it? All of this is on the wiki. I'd take some time to sit down and explore for yourself.
