Re: [9fans] gumstix displays

2010-12-09 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Dec  8 22:14:45 EST 2010, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
  if you want to go for a cheap atom, i think
  you can beat that price.
 
 Yes, but two weeks later you can't get the same device anymore, even
 though the successor, incompatible in fifteen different ways, is 2 USD
 cheaper.  And all of it is buggy in some fashion or other.  And VGA is
 its own reward.

that's simply not true.  i wouldn't recommend bad solutions.

i use this motherboard
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/945/X7SLA.cfm?typ=H
and this motherboard
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPE.cfm?typ=H

they're not cheep.  but with a $100 chassis+power supply, you have a $230-260
computer that's pretty fast (especially compared to a gumstix) and will Just 
work
with 9atom.  the first motherboard is completely fanless.  these motherboards
have been around for more than a year, and they're listed as embedded, which
means long support life.

i'm sure there are better and cheeper motherboards out there.  i stopped looking
when i found one that worked well.

- erik



Re: [9fans] gumstix displays

2010-12-09 Thread hiro
Erik, if I want fast I know where to look.

I still have a 20€ seagate dockstar wasting my electricity for debian.
Bad as a terminal but maybe something for a server. I'm still unsure
if I should solder some serial. Did somebody already try plan 9 on
this box?



Re: [9fans] gumstix displays

2010-12-09 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Dec  9 12:17:28 EST 2010, 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Erik, if I want fast I know where to look.

i believe the op's original adjective cheep. not fast.

- erik



Re: [9fans] gumstix displays

2010-12-09 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:22 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
 On Thu Dec  9 12:17:28 EST 2010, 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Erik, if I want fast I know where to look.

 i believe the op's original adjective cheep. not fast.


another part of my objective is open down to the metal. PCs just are
not in that space any more, at least not for me.

In fact PCs are now living the innovator's dilemma.

ron



Re: [9fans] gumstix displays

2010-12-09 Thread Bakul Shah
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 18:17:17 +0100 hiro 23h...@googlemail.com  wrote:
 I forgot to make this fortune nomination: i wouldn't recommend bad solutions
 .

Except to your frenemies?



Re: [9fans] gumstix displays

2010-12-08 Thread Jacob Todd
Seems a little small for a terminal, 4.3 at 480x272 resolution. Maybe I'm
crazy.


Re: [9fans] gumstix displays

2010-12-08 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Seems a little small for a terminal, 4.3 at 480x272 resolution. Maybe I'm
 crazy.

That's better than what you got on the iPaq, and I found that to be
reasonably usable.


John



Re: [9fans] gumstix displays

2010-12-08 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:29 PM, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
 There have been cheaper terminals for ages.
 But small may look nice in some cases...



If you can point me at such a cheap graphical terminal that is still
being made, I just might buy one tonight :) Grab a pentium from the
loading dock doesn't count!

John



Re: [9fans] gumstix displays

2010-12-08 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Dec  8 19:00:57 EST 2010, slawmas...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:29 PM, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
  There have been cheaper terminals for ages.
  But small may look nice in some cases...
 
 
 
 If you can point me at such a cheap graphical terminal that is still
 being made, I just might buy one tonight :) Grab a pentium from the
 loading dock doesn't count!

it shouldn't be difficult to beat the gumstix on a pure
cost basis.  by the time you put together a complete computer
with a power supply, ethernet and display, they're at least $300
without a case. if you want to go for a cheap atom, i think
you can beat that price.

- erik



Re: [9fans] gumstix displays

2010-12-08 Thread Lucio De Re
 if you want to go for a cheap atom, i think
 you can beat that price.

Yes, but two weeks later you can't get the same device anymore, even
though the successor, incompatible in fifteen different ways, is 2 USD
cheaper.  And all of it is buggy in some fashion or other.  And VGA is
its own reward.

Ron has a point.

++L