Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
We've got some budget left for hardware, so I'm looking for a server suitable for running Plan 9, preferably as good as I can get for about $3000-5000. You could build a 140-processor raspberry pi cluster for $4900, leaving $100 in the budget for power supply (490 watts) and wiring. Have to wait a few months for delivery though.
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
On 2012-07-26 09:33 , Richard Miller wrote: We've got some budget left for hardware, so I'm looking for a server suitable for running Plan 9, preferably as good as I can get for about $3000-5000. You could build a 140-processor raspberry pi cluster for $4900, leaving $100 in the budget for power supply (490 watts) and wiring. Have to wait a few months for delivery though. And reserve same amount in $5K to have 140 ethernet ports switch ;)
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
And reserve same amount in $5K to have 140 ethernet ports switch ;) No need for ethernet - just link boards in a mesh using gpio pins. And yes, I am joking.
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
On Thu Jul 26 08:41:56 EDT 2012, 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: And reserve same amount in $5K to have 140 ethernet ports switch ;) No need for ethernet - just link boards in a mesh using gpio pins. And yes, I am joking. it's an intersting thought experiment. here are other ways to get = processors cheeper 1. sgi altex. 32 processors itanic goodness for $1500. you could get two and double your processors. http://www.ebay.com/itm/SGI-Altix-3000-Rack-LOADED-with-C-Bricks-each-with-2-x-1-3GHz-16GB-/310415290426?pt=COMP_EN_Servershash=item484631703a#ht_784wt_979 2. sgi onyx2. 8 processors for $200. you could get 20 for $4000, but you may be calling an electrician http://www.ebay.com/itm/SGI-Silicon-Graphics-Onyx2-Server-CMN-A016-RM-10-256-/290748779993?pt=COMP_EN_Servershash=item43b1fa4dd9#ht_9902wt_818 - erik
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:10 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Thu Jul 26 08:41:56 EDT 2012, 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: And reserve same amount in $5K to have 140 ethernet ports switch ;) No need for ethernet - just link boards in a mesh using gpio pins. And yes, I am joking. it's an intersting thought experiment. here are other ways to get = processors cheeper 1. sgi altex. 32 processors itanic goodness for $1500. you could get two and double your processors. http://www.ebay.com/itm/SGI-Altix-3000-Rack-LOADED-with-C-Bricks-each-with-2-x-1-3GHz-16GB-/310415290426?pt=COMP_EN_Servershash=item484631703a#ht_784wt_979 Itanium was fun to play with years and years ago when I had access to them. Just because it was different mostly. I liked it for the same reason I liked those Cell processors - I'm weird. 2. sgi onyx2. 8 processors for $200. you could get 20 for $4000, but you may be calling an electrician http://www.ebay.com/itm/SGI-Silicon-Graphics-Onyx2-Server-CMN-A016-RM-10-256-/290748779993?pt=COMP_EN_Servershash=item43b1fa4dd9#ht_9902wt_818 Cool! - erik
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
I liked it for the same reason I liked those Cell processors - I'm weird. a lot of people really hated it because it killed alpha...
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
On Thu Jul 26 11:18:04 EDT 2012, mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: I liked it for the same reason I liked those Cell processors - I'm weird. a lot of people really hated it because it killed alpha... credit where due. itanic killed alpha. or more accurately, the politics behind itanic. - erik
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 01:04:57PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: On Thu Jul 26 11:18:04 EDT 2012, mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: I liked it for the same reason I liked those Cell processors - I'm weird. a lot of people really hated it because it killed alpha... credit where due. itanic killed alpha. or more accurately, the politics behind itanic. And perhaps the conception too? about what was needed from the compiler and the programmer to really use the stuff. It seemed far too complex to be of sufficiently easy of use and large benefits to convince a lot of people to try. The doubtful description read in Hennesy and Patterson' Computer Architecture was fair enough. Not to speak about compatibility, the one feature that made Intel and Microsoft prosper... The Plan9 vs Unix is not in the very same pattern. If Itanium was doomed, the Plan9 approach seems to me more and more valid everyday---interconnections, ubiquity or lack of locality of resources; terminals vs. CPU vs. fileservers etc. And simplicity... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:16 AM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.comwrote: I liked it for the same reason I liked those Cell processors - I'm weird. a lot of people really hated it because it killed alpha... Yes that was very sad. I liked Alpha too, but business reasons caused it to die more than Itanium as a technology.
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:57 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 01:04:57PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: On Thu Jul 26 11:18:04 EDT 2012, mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: I liked it for the same reason I liked those Cell processors - I'm weird. a lot of people really hated it because it killed alpha... credit where due. itanic killed alpha. or more accurately, the politics behind itanic. And perhaps the conception too? about what was needed from the compiler and the programmer to really use the stuff. It seemed far too complex to be of sufficiently easy of use and large benefits to convince a lot of people to try. The doubtful description read in Hennesy and Patterson' Computer Architecture was fair enough. Not to speak about compatibility, the one feature that made Intel and Microsoft prosper... The Plan9 vs Unix is not in the very same pattern. If Itanium was doomed, the Plan9 approach seems to me more and more valid everyday---interconnections, ubiquity or lack of locality of resources; terminals vs. CPU vs. fileservers etc. And simplicity... We'll just keep the fire lit then I suppose until people come to their senses :-) -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
unlike newegg, acmemicro does not stock anything so delivery time is long. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:58 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Wed Jul 25 00:45:01 EDT 2012, j...@jfloren.net wrote: We've got some budget left for hardware, so I'm looking for a server suitable for running Plan 9, preferably as good as I can get for about $3000-5000. Buying non-Thinkpad Plan 9 hardware is kind of a crapshoot, and this isn't just some $100 Atom system, so if any of you are running something along these lines, please let me know. I'd most like to see lots of cores and lots of RAM, I don't even want storage (we've got other methods for storage). hey, john, i've had incredible luck with intel servers from supermicro for general beat-about servers. just as a quick suggestion, i'd look at this server here. http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/6017/SYS-6017R-WRF.cfm with 8-core socket-r cpus, you can have 32 cores and 128gb of memory without stretching the budget too much. the intel i350 nics work fine, but for something that hot, i'd get a myircom or intel 10gbe adapter. this was just whatever came up in 5 minutes. you might want to look at this page here for more options http://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/Xeon_X9_E5.cfm?pg=SS acmemicro.com (fitting, no?) should have the full range of stuff. - erik
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
On Wed Jul 25 12:46:23 EDT 2012, balaji.srinivasa+pl...@gmail.com wrote: unlike newegg, acmemicro does not stock anything so delivery time is long. depends on what you order. you can call 'em up and get an account. they'll let you know, and help you change your order slightly to meet whatever deadline you've got. i've done this a few times personally. - erik
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 09:44:31AM -0700, balaji wrote: unlike newegg, acmemicro does not stock anything so delivery time is long. Supermicro resellers (like ixsystems) tend to be better about this.
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
true, but one order of mine took 2-3 times longer to fulfill than newegg. not attempted returns with these guys either. prices were just about competitive, however, if you're in the bay area you can pick it up and save shipping. the order was just a bunch of 1U supermicros. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:47 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: On Wed Jul 25 12:46:23 EDT 2012, balaji.srinivasa+pl...@gmail.com wrote: unlike newegg, acmemicro does not stock anything so delivery time is long. depends on what you order. you can call 'em up and get an account. they'll let you know, and help you change your order slightly to meet whatever deadline you've got. i've done this a few times personally. - erik
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
what are you guys running? java? chrome? I'm fine with 2 cores.
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
I don't think that can be a problem if all they compile is plan9 software.
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
the real question is: how many catclocks can it run in parallel before the front falls off? ;) -- cinap
[9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
We've got some budget left for hardware, so I'm looking for a server suitable for running Plan 9, preferably as good as I can get for about $3000-5000. Buying non-Thinkpad Plan 9 hardware is kind of a crapshoot, and this isn't just some $100 Atom system, so if any of you are running something along these lines, please let me know. I'd most like to see lots of cores and lots of RAM, I don't even want storage (we've got other methods for storage). Thanks, John
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
On Wed Jul 25 00:45:01 EDT 2012, j...@jfloren.net wrote: We've got some budget left for hardware, so I'm looking for a server suitable for running Plan 9, preferably as good as I can get for about $3000-5000. Buying non-Thinkpad Plan 9 hardware is kind of a crapshoot, and this isn't just some $100 Atom system, so if any of you are running something along these lines, please let me know. I'd most like to see lots of cores and lots of RAM, I don't even want storage (we've got other methods for storage). hey, john, i've had incredible luck with intel servers from supermicro for general beat-about servers. just as a quick suggestion, i'd look at this server here. http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/6017/SYS-6017R-WRF.cfm with 8-core socket-r cpus, you can have 32 cores and 128gb of memory without stretching the budget too much. the intel i350 nics work fine, but for something that hot, i'd get a myircom or intel 10gbe adapter. this was just whatever came up in 5 minutes. you might want to look at this page here for more options http://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/Xeon_X9_E5.cfm?pg=SS acmemicro.com (fitting, no?) should have the full range of stuff. - erik
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:58 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Wed Jul 25 00:45:01 EDT 2012, j...@jfloren.net wrote: We've got some budget left for hardware, so I'm looking for a server suitable for running Plan 9, preferably as good as I can get for about $3000-5000. Buying non-Thinkpad Plan 9 hardware is kind of a crapshoot, and this isn't just some $100 Atom system, so if any of you are running something along these lines, please let me know. I'd most like to see lots of cores and lots of RAM, I don't even want storage (we've got other methods for storage). hey, john, i've had incredible luck with intel servers from supermicro for general beat-about servers. just as a quick suggestion, i'd look at this server here. http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/6017/SYS-6017R-WRF.cfm with 8-core socket-r cpus, you can have 32 cores and 128gb of memory without stretching the budget too much. the intel i350 nics work fine, but for something that hot, i'd get a myircom or intel 10gbe adapter. this was just whatever came up in 5 minutes. you might want to look at this page here for more options http://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/Xeon_X9_E5.cfm?pg=SS acmemicro.com (fitting, no?) should have the full range of stuff. - erik Thanks for the tip; I just looked at acmemicro and spec'd out a decent-looking 16-core system with 64 GB of RAM for about $4800, so I'll probably end up doing something like that. john
Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?
Watch out for the bunnies! On 25 July 2012 15:09, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:58 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Wed Jul 25 00:45:01 EDT 2012, j...@jfloren.net wrote: We've got some budget left for hardware, so I'm looking for a server suitable for running Plan 9, preferably as good as I can get for about $3000-5000. Buying non-Thinkpad Plan 9 hardware is kind of a crapshoot, and this isn't just some $100 Atom system, so if any of you are running something along these lines, please let me know. I'd most like to see lots of cores and lots of RAM, I don't even want storage (we've got other methods for storage). hey, john, i've had incredible luck with intel servers from supermicro for general beat-about servers. just as a quick suggestion, i'd look at this server here. http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/6017/SYS-6017R-WRF.cfm with 8-core socket-r cpus, you can have 32 cores and 128gb of memory without stretching the budget too much. the intel i350 nics work fine, but for something that hot, i'd get a myircom or intel 10gbe adapter. this was just whatever came up in 5 minutes. you might want to look at this page here for more options http://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/Xeon_X9_E5.cfm?pg=SS acmemicro.com (fitting, no?) should have the full range of stuff. - erik Thanks for the tip; I just looked at acmemicro and spec'd out a decent-looking 16-core system with 64 GB of RAM for about $4800, so I'll probably end up doing something like that. john
