Re: [9fans] native lbl, long text in troff, bold italics in eqn

2010-09-16 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Hello, so what do you use for cross-references in troff documents under plan9? Thanks, Ruda On 3 September 2010 17:16, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote: is there a native lbl (for symbolic labels in text documents), or do I have to grab the unix tarball and somehow compile that?

Re: [9fans] native lbl, long text in troff, bold italics in eqn

2010-09-16 Thread jake
Hello, so what do you use for cross-references in troff documents under plan9? Thanks, Ruda There's two versions of refer in contrib. One version is forsyth/refer.tgz, which is just refer, 'slightly improved,' and the other version is steve/refer, which is refer from forsyth with bin2ref and

Re: [9fans] native lbl, long text in troff, bold italics in eqn

2010-09-16 Thread Rudolf Sykora
There's two versions of refer in contrib. One version is forsyth/refer.tgz, which is just refer, 'slightly improved,' and the other version is steve/refer, which is refer from forsyth with bin2ref and the plan 9 bibliography from the University of Utah. They can be installed with contrib.

Re: [9fans] native lbl, long text in troff, bold italics in eqn

2010-09-16 Thread Gregory Pavelcak
I think you would have to use two passes of troff. The first pass would generate the info you needed to define the crossref macro. For example: .NH 2 Middle of Paper .LP .tm crossref: .if $1middle see sec. \*(SN I have the label 'crossref:' in case you are generating definitions for several

Re: [9fans] native lbl, long text in troff, bold italics in eqn

2010-09-16 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On 10-09-16 9:41 AM, Gregory Pavelcak wrote: I think you would have to use two passes of troff. The first pass would generate the info you needed to define the crossref macro. Also, take a look around troff.org. At the very least there should be a link to Stevens' notes about typesetting the

[9fans] native lbl, long text in troff, bold italics in eqn

2010-09-03 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Hello, I have basically 3 questions: 1) is there a native lbl (for symbolic labels in text documents), or do I have to grab the unix tarball and somehow compile that? (How? Using APE? Never tried that before...) 2) I heard and read that the 'ms' troff macros are not suitable for longer

Re: [9fans] native lbl, long text in troff, bold italics in eqn

2010-09-03 Thread Charles Forsyth
2) I heard and read that the 'ms' troff macros are not suitable for longer documents (I want to write my PhD thesis), as opposed supposedly to the 'me' macros (which, however are not in plan9, I believe). Can anybody give me their opinion? i don't see the problem. i've used -ms without fuss on

Re: [9fans] native lbl, long text in troff, bold italics in eqn

2010-09-03 Thread Brian L. Stuart
2) I heard and read that the 'ms' troff macros are not suitable for longer documents (I want to write my PhD thesis), as opposed supposedly to the 'me' macros (which, however are not in plan9, I believe). Can anybody give me their opinion? There should be some macro packages out there that

Re: [9fans] native lbl, long text in troff, bold italics in eqn

2010-09-03 Thread Charles Forsyth
There should be some macro packages out there that fit particular universities' requirements. oh. if there were whacky requirements (i think the main one for me was a now-obsolete requirement for 1.5 spacing) i tweaked settings as required. it was fairly minor effort (and i don't typically

Re: [9fans] native lbl, long text in troff, bold italics in eqn

2010-09-03 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
On Sep 3, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Rudolf Sykora wrote: 3) Although eqn produces worse result than TeX, I like the way formulae are input, and thus have used it. Sometimes I need bold italics, which I achieve by overstriking. This isn't ideal, maybe using a special bold italics font would be better.