Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!
I recommend windows 98 for normal slacking off, but if you want to do real work rc scripting on 9front is quite nice. C might be easier in some cases, but sadly it never got necessary for me to use it regularly, so I never got proficient enough to use it much. I plan to though. Obviously webkit developers won't be using plan9 for development, so pick your sides.
Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!
is there anyone using plan9 as their only system for development activities? Not sure if this counts. I use plan9 at work though most of the code I write is for windows (server apps), Linux and embedded, so Plan9 becomes a glofified IDE for me. Having siad this it is an excellent IDE that is a pleasure to use. I also do occasional Plan9 development and maintain a port of some plan9 tools which allow me to do the equivilent of cpu(1) to a windows box. Wish I had more time for plan9 development. -Steve
Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!
drawterm exports its local content to Plan 9 via the /mnt/term namespace; you don't have to have p9p. also, Go code is nearly always platform independent (with no cgo or syscall package). On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Lee Fallat ircsurfe...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's important to point out you can use the latest version of Go on Plan 9 (last time I heard), which makes it a very nice environment for Go developers. AFAIK though people just use plan9port to get Plan 9-like functionality (Acme usage, primarily). Personally I see no benefits using Plan 9 for development work unless you are developing for Plan 9. Yes, namespaces, 9p, and being more unix than unix is great (awesome really), but you cannot run the majority of software to meet other demands. Just curious, what do you plan on developing, Mayuresh, if you could tell us? On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: and Go. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Lee Fallat ircsurfe...@gmail.com wrote: The only development you could possibly do is anything with C...and a few scripting languages ported through APE. Otherwise, your best bet is to VNC to another computer running a more mainstream OS- but then you might as well just be running said OS. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@devio.us wrote: is there anyone using plan9 as their only system for development activities? while i do have a 'gui' based networked system (a google chromebook), it would be nice to immerse myself into the plan9 culture by using the 'os' for everything i need for software tinkering and development. thanks.
[9fans] using plan9 as the only system!
is there anyone using plan9 as their only system for development activities? while i do have a 'gui' based networked system (a google chromebook), it would be nice to immerse myself into the plan9 culture by using the 'os' for everything i need for software tinkering and development. thanks.
Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!
The only development you could possibly do is anything with C...and a few scripting languages ported through APE. Otherwise, your best bet is to VNC to another computer running a more mainstream OS- but then you might as well just be running said OS. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@devio.us wrote: is there anyone using plan9 as their only system for development activities? while i do have a 'gui' based networked system (a google chromebook), it would be nice to immerse myself into the plan9 culture by using the 'os' for everything i need for software tinkering and development. thanks.
Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!
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Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!
and Go. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Lee Fallat ircsurfe...@gmail.com wrote: The only development you could possibly do is anything with C...and a few scripting languages ported through APE. Otherwise, your best bet is to VNC to another computer running a more mainstream OS- but then you might as well just be running said OS. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@devio.us wrote: is there anyone using plan9 as their only system for development activities? while i do have a 'gui' based networked system (a google chromebook), it would be nice to immerse myself into the plan9 culture by using the 'os' for everything i need for software tinkering and development. thanks.
Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!
I think it's important to point out you can use the latest version of Go on Plan 9 (last time I heard), which makes it a very nice environment for Go developers. AFAIK though people just use plan9port to get Plan 9-like functionality (Acme usage, primarily). Personally I see no benefits using Plan 9 for development work unless you are developing for Plan 9. Yes, namespaces, 9p, and being more unix than unix is great (awesome really), but you cannot run the majority of software to meet other demands. Just curious, what do you plan on developing, Mayuresh, if you could tell us? On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: and Go. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Lee Fallat ircsurfe...@gmail.com wrote: The only development you could possibly do is anything with C...and a few scripting languages ported through APE. Otherwise, your best bet is to VNC to another computer running a more mainstream OS- but then you might as well just be running said OS. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@devio.us wrote: is there anyone using plan9 as their only system for development activities? while i do have a 'gui' based networked system (a google chromebook), it would be nice to immerse myself into the plan9 culture by using the 'os' for everything i need for software tinkering and development. thanks.
Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!
i routinely struggle with javascript. my dev environment is Plan 9 and debugger is Chrome. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Lee Fallat ircsurfe...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's important to point out you can use the latest version of Go on Plan 9 (last time I heard), which makes it a very nice environment for Go developers. AFAIK though people just use plan9port to get Plan 9-like functionality (Acme usage, primarily). Personally I see no benefits using Plan 9 for development work unless you are developing for Plan 9. Yes, namespaces, 9p, and being more unix than unix is great (awesome really), but you cannot run the majority of software to meet other demands. Just curious, what do you plan on developing, Mayuresh, if you could tell us? On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: and Go. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Lee Fallat ircsurfe...@gmail.com wrote: The only development you could possibly do is anything with C...and a few scripting languages ported through APE. Otherwise, your best bet is to VNC to another computer running a more mainstream OS- but then you might as well just be running said OS. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@devio.us wrote: is there anyone using plan9 as their only system for development activities? while i do have a 'gui' based networked system (a google chromebook), it would be nice to immerse myself into the plan9 culture by using the 'os' for everything i need for software tinkering and development. thanks.
Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!
The only development you could possibly do is anything with C...and a few scripting languages ported through APE. It's trivial to import file systems from non-Plan 9 systems and manipulate their files using standard Plan 9 tools. It's trivial to connect to non- Plan9 systems from Plan 9 using SSH and run whatever scripts or compilers are necessary to complete the write-build-test cycle. Do you even use Plan 9? What do you use it for? sl
Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!
AFAIK though people just use plan9port to get Plan 9-like functionality (Acme usage, primarily). Personally I see no benefits using Plan 9 for development work unless you are developing for Plan 9. Yes, namespaces, 9p, and being more unix than unix is great (awesome really), but you cannot run the majority of software to meet other demands. i can't really agree with this. a plan 9 development environment is great stuff, even when developing for other embedded systems. you're better off without the vendor junk anyway. now linux and windows are pretty insular enviroments, and this makes life quite a bit harder, but my point is that i think there's a broader perspective. - erik
