Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-24 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote in <0903a00d50966...@orthanc.ca>: |Steffen Nurpmeso writes: |> It can even be as small as |> |> #?0|kent:unix-hist$ du -sh . |> 179M. |> |> when not including all the new FreeBSD things (for which i at |> least track the FreeBSD git

Re: [9fans] Olimex: these guys are keen electronic engineers.

2021-02-24 Thread Lucio De Re
On 2/24/21, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: >> So far I have been shy to recommend Plan 9 to them > > You could recommend the Plan 9 RISC-V assembler, C compiler and linker > as a stand-alone toolset without the need to run Plan 9 - because they > are also available as part of inferno,

Re: [9fans] Olimex: these guys are keen electronic engineers.

2021-02-24 Thread Richard Miller
> So far I have been shy to recommend Plan 9 to them You could recommend the Plan 9 RISC-V assembler, C compiler and linker as a stand-alone toolset without the need to run Plan 9 - because they are also available as part of inferno, which they could run hosted on their favourite OS. As for

Re: [9fans] Olimex: these guys are keen electronic engineers.

2021-02-24 Thread Richard Miller
> You could recommend the Plan 9 RISC-V assembler, C compiler and linker Looking at their posting again, what they want is a resident monitor running on the RISC-V SoC itself that can do assembly/disassembly. So an offline toolchain will not do the job for them.

Re: [9fans] Olimex: these guys are keen electronic engineers.

2021-02-24 Thread Lucio De Re
I have no doubt that they will find what they seek, or cope with something near enough. Let me ponder this, see what further suggestions may come from our not-quite-OSS community. Lucio. On 2/24/21, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: >> You could recommend the Plan 9 RISC-V assembler, C

Re: [9fans] 2c/2l make sense, but why 1c/1l?

2021-02-24 Thread Joseph Stewart
Charles could probably answer this better than me, but weren't the 68k compilers made to support Inferno? -joe On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 11:18 PM wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm wondering about the history of the 68000 compiler/tools. Support for the > 68020 makes sense, it had an MMU, but 68000 did

Re: [9fans] 2c/2l make sense, but why 1c/1l?

2021-02-24 Thread Anthony Sorace
The compiler suite has had a few compilers in it which were used for things other than kernel ports. I can’t say about the 68000 specifically, but that would be my guess. The i960 and DSP3210 compilers are other examples. > On Feb 23, 2021, at 21:18, Steve Simon wrote: > > I don't believe a

Re: [9fans] 2c/2l make sense, but why 1c/1l?

2021-02-24 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
I am speculating that it was to support compiling code for a version of the Blit. 630MTG used 68000 and DMD5620 used AT WE3210. gnot used the 68020. On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 11:18 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I'm wondering about the history of the 68000 compiler/tools. Support for > the 68020 makes

Re: [9fans] 2c/2l make sense, but why 1c/1l?

2021-02-24 Thread Charles Forsyth
To be fair, I probably should convert my machine with lots of disks with lots of historical partitions into a single tree with the contents just as subdirectories. It's not as though anyone's going to use them as images ever again. They only ended up that way because the originals were in strange

Re: [9fans] 2c/2l make sense, but why 1c/1l?

2021-02-24 Thread Charles Forsyth
I think they might have been there for some other reason and then was used for Inferno, which they somewhat had going on a Palm Pilot in some form (not necessarily as the native kernel). If I waded through a ton of archive material I could probably find the latter, to see what it was, but I'm not

Re: [9fans] 2c/2l make sense, but why 1c/1l?

2021-02-24 Thread Joseph Stewart
Cool. I had a talk with Bradley (and maybe you Charles) at some past IW9P about mangling the 68k compilers to support Coldfire but I never went forward with it. I had inherited supporting a device that was barely running uCLinux that I REALLY wanted to run Inferno on... On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at