Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018, at 2:58 PM, Daniel Camolês wrote: > > I understand the sunken cost fallacy, but seriously, there's a reason > handwriting on tablets is not that much used despite the existence of > softwares for such. It can be useful when it comes to short annotations, but > it's really ridiculous for long texts. If it could be useful for tasks such > as writing a book and programming, we mostly likely would be doing it by now. > > Maybe it's not impossible that someone would come up with a way to input text > using a pen over a screen that's even more efficient and convenient than a > keyboard. So far, such technology just doesn't exist. > Did you read the part in the article where they say writing on the ReMarkable's screen feels like writing on paper? Part of the problem with handwriting on screens was the slipperiness of the screen. This is a step forward here.
Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!
On 2/13/18, Mart Zirnaskwrote: > On 13/02/2018, Lucio De Re wrote: >> Stenography (short-hand)? >> > Yes -- "everything is a line"! > https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/06/yeah-i-still-use-shorthand-and-a-smartpen/373281/ > Thank you for that bit of present-day archaeology. Any idea what product the author was using? I live where woman emancipation would probably still gain some traction by going though the short-hand cycle, I guess we're stuck in some sort of time-warp. Personally, I'd be willing, perhaps no longer able, to move along with the times by going back a few decades :-). Ever since the bitsy port, I've been meaning to look into this. Thank you, Mart. Lucio.
Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!
On 13/02/2018, Lucio De Rewrote: > On 2/13/18, Daniel Camolês wrote: >> [ ... ] >> >> Maybe it's not impossible that someone would come up with a way to input >> text using a pen over a screen that's even more efficient and convenient >> than a keyboard. So far, such technology just doesn't exist. >> > Stenography (short-hand)? > Yes -- "everything is a line"! https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/06/yeah-i-still-use-shorthand-and-a-smartpen/373281/
Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!
Maybe it's not impossible that someone would come up with a way to input text using a pen over a screen that's even more efficient and convenient than a keyboard. So far, such technology just doesn't exist. Dust off the handwriting code that was done for the bitsy.
Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!
On 2/13/18, Daniel Camolêswrote: > [ ... ] > > Maybe it's not impossible that someone would come up with a way to input > text using a pen over a screen that's even more efficient and convenient > than a keyboard. So far, such technology just doesn't exist. > Stenography (short-hand)? Fashion is still driving the hand-held revolution. Let's salute the few cases of technologists bucking the trend. Specially here, where we experience the pain of swimming upstream on a daily basis. Lucio.
Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!
Well because... A keyboard is very cheap and if you could pay for your tablet, you can probably afford it? And it's an efficient way to input text, way more efficient than any handwriting on a screen. I understand the sunken cost fallacy, but seriously, there's a reason handwriting on tablets is not that much used despite the existence of softwares for such. It can be useful when it comes to short annotations, but it's really ridiculous for long texts. If it could be useful for tasks such as writing a book and programming, we mostly likely would be doing it by now. Maybe it's not impossible that someone would come up with a way to input text using a pen over a screen that's even more efficient and convenient than a keyboard. So far, such technology just doesn't exist. Em 13 de fev de 2018 12:21, "Ethan Grammatikidis"escreveu: On Tue, Feb 13, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Daniel Camolês wrote: You could use, you know, a keyboard with my ordinary tablet? sure! with a $600 tablet whose main trick is the handwriting input? why would i buy the tablet? -- The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. -- Chaucer
Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Daniel Camolês wrote: > You could use, you know, a keyboard with my ordinary tablet? sure! with a $600 tablet whose main trick is the handwriting input? why would i buy the tablet? -- The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. -- Chaucer
Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!
You could use, you know, a keyboard Em 13 de fev de 2018 10:49, "Ethan Grammatikidis"escreveu: > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018, at 2:51 PM, hiro wrote: > > your features sound neat, but they don't solve the problem of inputing > > longer text. > > > > i imagine many would find handwriting more comfortable than tapping a lot. > possibly more accurate too, although an osk on a screen that big isn't too > bad for accuracy. of course, i'm assuming the art of handwriting isn't dead > yet. i won't get one because i was never very good at handwriting. :) i > preferred the osk on my 2.5" palm back in '01. :) it was good with its > stylus, and it wasn't one of those ridiculous modern stylii with the fat > squishy tips. would need an active stylus to match it today. > > -- > The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. -- Chaucer > >
Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018, at 2:51 PM, hiro wrote: > your features sound neat, but they don't solve the problem of inputing > longer text. > i imagine many would find handwriting more comfortable than tapping a lot. possibly more accurate too, although an osk on a screen that big isn't too bad for accuracy. of course, i'm assuming the art of handwriting isn't dead yet. i won't get one because i was never very good at handwriting. :) i preferred the osk on my 2.5" palm back in '01. :) it was good with its stylus, and it wasn't one of those ridiculous modern stylii with the fat squishy tips. would need an active stylus to match it today. -- The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. -- Chaucer
Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!
your features sound neat, but they don't solve the problem of inputing longer text.
Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!
On Feb 12, 2018, at 5:44 AM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > i might even run acme > for a day for you. but with mouse and keyboard, i would never replace > them with touch input. Ah, but where’s the challenge in that?! Some ideas to give a sense of what I’m thinking: drawing a line across the screen vertically or horizontally to create two windows. Scratch it out to close a window. Lasso a filename and drag it in a window tag bar to open it there. Select a word and type ? to search. Such ideas would have to be iterated over and tried out to find out what works.
Re: [9fans] ReMarkable!
we have two of these devices here in the office and my coworker loves to use it for making notes and sketches. i like the device's size for reading pdfs with annoying layouts, and i prefer this screen technology to the glaring normal displays i get to use otherwise. replace my main monitor with one of these and i might even run acme for a day for you. but with mouse and keyboard, i would never replace them with touch input. for sketches i'll keep on using paper and pen :)