[A51] 3GPP Algorithm

2009-12-25 Thread javier falbo
I would like to share some interesting info of Kasumi implementation on Third Generation Phones. http://www.etsi.org/WebSite/OurServices/Algorithms/3gppalgorithms.aspx Check DOCUMENT 2. The new attack speed up the decoding process, it is a practical attack (compare to previous 2005 attack).

Re: [A51] Kasumi

2009-12-25 Thread javier falbo
Hi, Sorry for my late reply, as it is Christmas!! and i have a family meeting. The presentation is 100% original, and the eprint of the full/complete attack details will be publish soon.(Check http://eprint.iacr.org/) I have more than 150 emails to reply, as i am part of the cryto scene, and i

Re: [A51] Kasumi

2009-12-25 Thread sascha
What is meant by a plaintext sample is not said in the presentation, but i assume it is at least a 64bit block. that 2^29 bytes and way longer than any actual conversation. so for 3g networks where known plaintext comes in the form of low bandwidth control channels it is not a practical attack, ass

Re: [A51] Kasumi

2009-12-25 Thread p q
2^26 is a very low figure . it means a couple of seconds of a conversation , if we have already determined there is enough known plain text there i think the attack they have presented is focused on Kasumi itself , not the way its used in 3G based networks . the description they used is very simila

Re: [A51] Kasumi

2009-12-25 Thread sascha
2^26 known plaintext samples is still way to much. but already a huge improvement over the 2005 attack that required 2^54 chosen plaintexts. So it is still irrelevant in practice. Then some slides about how Kasumi works. On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 03:58:44PM +0100, Pavol Luptak wrote: > Hi, > it's n

Re: [A51] Kasumi

2009-12-25 Thread Pavol Luptak
Hi, it's not true. javier falbo has already sent me this presentation and it looks quite authentically. The authors of this presentation are Orr Dunkelman, Nathan Keller and Adi Shamir (all famous cryptographers). I would like to share this presentation, but I'm still not sure, if it is already pu

Re: [A51] Kasumi

2009-12-25 Thread None None
I heard it was a fake, the guy just wanted to get names/info about people... Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 16:12:25 +0330 From: ultimat...@gmail.com To: a51@lists.reflextor.com Subject: [A51] Kasumi anybody got access to the Kasumi crack presentation ? i sent email to the guy but he didnt answer , i

[A51] Kasumi

2009-12-25 Thread p q
anybody got access to the Kasumi crack presentation ? i sent email to the guy but he didnt answer , i also coulent find the paper on web ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51