RE: [abcusers] Key/Mode algorithm

2002-07-23 Thread Karl Dallas
A wonderful archive! It took me just a few moments to copy all the tunes to a single abc file and I now have a superb tune source available, not only on my PC but also on my Palm PDA (playable with PalmABC). Thank you. -- Karl Dallas, HoustonMedia Please note new

Re: [abcusers] Sidmouth

2002-07-23 Thread howard
Thomas Bending wrote: I'm playing with Momentum for English social dance, including the Playford Ball on Wednesday night. I'd be glad to meet any ABCusers who wander by. Shameless plug: www.MomentumBand.co.uk Thomas Bending Mr. Bending (surely a pseudonym), how dare you use this

Re: [abcusers] RE: Explicit key signatures

2002-07-23 Thread Phil Taylor
Jack Campin wrote: The lattice- theoretic operations implicit in the Campbell-Collinson scheme for describing gapped scales (as I use on my website) mean you can name a whole bunch of modes simply as the lattice meet of existing ones; no need to memorize umpteen unrelated names as in the Bronson

Re: [abcusers] RE: Explicit key signatures

2002-07-23 Thread Bruce Olson
Phil Taylor wrote: Jack Campin wrote: The lattice- theoretic operations implicit in the Campbell-Collinson scheme for describing gapped scales (as I use on my website) mean you can name a whole bunch of modes simply as the lattice meet of existing ones; no need to memorize umpteen

Re: [abcusers] Modes without the maths

2002-07-23 Thread Jack Campin
If it's in E phrygian and is a flamenco piece (perhaps phrygian major) you'll hear a characteristic ending sequence of Am = G7 = Fmaj7 = E If it's in the minor phrygian then I haven't a clue and the same applies to F lydian. I don't think I've encountered that distinction between two kinds

Re: [abcusers] Re: Key/Mode algorithm

2002-07-23 Thread Jack Campin
With gapped scales: Will a tune with a missing seventh be called ionian or mixolydian in the key+mode system? Why should it be called either since it's not a heptatonic scale? I suggested how we could deal with this years ago. There is no standard for putting this in key signatures, but

Re: [abcusers] Re: Key/Mode algorithm (Out of Office)

2002-07-23 Thread Felicia Gonzalez
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Re: [abcusers] Key/Mode algorithm

2002-07-23 Thread Bruce Olson
Phil Taylor wrote: I played through and edited all the tunes I used to make sure that the scoring mode and tune mode were the same. I'm impressed. That's a lot of work. Over half the time it takes me to stressed note code a tune is spent on figuring out which are the significant notes

Re: [abcusers] Modes without the maths

2002-07-23 Thread John Chambers
Jack Campin asks: | If it's in E phrygian and is a flamenco piece (perhaps phrygian major) | you'll hear a characteristic ending sequence of Am = G7 = Fmaj7 = E | If it's in the minor phrygian then I haven't a clue and the same applies | to F lydian. | | I don't think I've encountered that

Re: [abcusers] Key/Mode algorithm

2002-07-23 Thread Phil Taylor
Bruce Olsen wrote: Phil Taylor wrote: I played through and edited all the tunes I used to make sure that the scoring mode and tune mode were the same. I'm impressed. That's a lot of work. Over half the time it takes me to stressed note code a tune is spent on figuring out which are the

[abcusers] ABC software in reference libraries

2002-07-23 Thread Jack Campin
I gave a copy of my CD-ROM to the National Library of Scotland. They said, great, can we have six of them please? This because they're part of the legal-deposit system in the UK, including others like the Mitchell, the Bodleian and the British Library. They also gave me the darnedest form,

Re: [abcusers] ABC software in reference libraries

2002-07-23 Thread Wil Macaulay
Jack, I'd be happy to let Skink be used for that purpose - it will directly open a URL (use the Fetch menu selection from the File menu). It is, however, a reasonably fully-featured text editor, so would it be necessary or desirable to disable some of that functionality? If you want to play

Re: [abcusers] ABC software in reference libraries

2002-07-23 Thread Laura Conrad
Wil == Wil Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wil I'd be happy to let Skink be used for that purpose - it will directly open Wil a URL (use the Fetch menu selection from the File menu). It is, however, Wil a reasonably fully-featured text editor, so would it be necessary or Wil

Re: [abcusers] ABC software in reference libraries

2002-07-23 Thread Wil Macaulay
I was thinking of anything else that might be on the public-access terminal... wil Laura Conrad wrote: Wil == Wil Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wil I'd be happy to let Skink be used for that purpose - it will directly open Wil a URL (use the Fetch menu selection from the File

[abcusers] Re: Key/Mode algorithm

2002-07-23 Thread Bryancreer
Jack Campin wrote - I think you are underestimating the cultural sophistication of English farmworkers by a VERY large margin. Nearly all of them went to church, and for most of the areas Sharp, Lloyd and Vaughan Williams collected in, that church was the Church of England. With a tradition of

[abcusers] Phrygian major

2002-07-23 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
Well there are a few odd pieces that one or two list members have unearthed that seem to be really the Greek phrygian mode in that they resolve on to a chord which is a triad starting from the tonic. e.g. in EPhr that's E G B or an E minor chord. They know more than I do. I don't understand

Re: [abcusers] Modes without the maths

2002-07-23 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
John Chambers wrote ...That phrygian major sounds a lot like what the people to the south and east of Spain call hejaz and klezmer musicians call freygish. Phrygian with a raised 3rd ... Yes. In Ephr, the ^G from the E major in the harmony creeps into the tune now and again. But for most

Re: [abcusers] ABC software in reference libraries

2002-07-23 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
Actually Muse isn;t locked up quite that badly - it will turn ABC into tadpoles on the screen. What it won't do is play or print. Maybe I should make Muse2 so that it will *play* ABC for free. (It's a one-line change so I may be able to find the time). L. - Original Message - From:

Re: [abcusers] Key/Mode algorithm

2002-07-23 Thread Bruce Olson
Phil Taylor wrote: The other scale that I can't find any examples for is the pentatonic Pi-5. I suspect that there aren't any, as that scale involves dropping the fifth, and it's hard to imagine a tune without a fifth in it. Phil Taylor Pi-5 is pretty rare. I

Re: [abcusers] The (illegal / empty ) sounds of silence (again)

2002-07-23 Thread John Chambers
| I come anew on this topic, just because I've seen this on a | webpage : ... | What are doing the lawers ??? It's a copyright infringement. :) Indeed; that's what started this off. A couple of weeks ago, there was a great news report concerning a recording (from Mike Batt) that included a

[abcusers] abcusers-digest V1 #744

2002-07-23 Thread philkatz
Robert Bley-Vroman wrote: My comments interspersed Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:03:43 -0700 From: Robert Bley-Vroman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [abcusers] RE: Explicit key signatures ... For what it's worth: In any notation system, one must make a distinction between what the notation permits

[abcusers] ABaCusMusic Web Site?

2002-07-23 Thread Don/Martha Whitener
Bryan, Have you changed something, or is the ABaCusMusic site just down? AOL claims for several days now that it doesn't exist :-) Don Huntsville, AL To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html