Re: [abcusers] bass clef and transposition

2003-08-08 Thread Buddha Buck
Martin Tarenskeen wrote: On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: Yes, and it all spelled out in section 6 (clefs) of the standard. [K:bass middle=D] will achieve exactly what you want. The standard says: middle=pitch is an alternate way to define the line number of the clef. The pitch

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

2003-07-15 Thread Buddha Buck
Richard Robinson wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:14 So all we can do is, find all abc programs that aren't being maintained, and document the common subset :( I think it would be appropriate to have a section in the standard on legacy applications. If it's documented that abc2win and

Re: [abcusers] new BNF spec

2003-07-07 Thread Buddha Buck
T.M. Sommers wrote: henrik wrote: There is one serious problem with changing the BNF spec to literal strings being case sensitive - places where we don't want case sensitiveness become horribly complicated! E.g. dor dorian DOR Dor Dorian etc should all be allowed, but the BNF for case

Re: [abcusers] Free notation program for Windows - let's write it...

2003-07-07 Thread Buddha Buck
On Thursday, Jul 3, 2003, at 13:52 US/Eastern, Buddha Buck wrote: On Thursday, Jul 3, 2003, at 06:43 US/Eastern, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] chemnitz.de, Joerg Anders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes A short remark about this. Somtimes open source is equated with cost free. But even

Re: [abcusers] Re: abc and microtonality

2003-07-04 Thread Buddha Buck
John Walsh wrote: Ah yes, the M word. I think I added my own bit to the confusion, tho not, I hope, to the flames. What is clear is that there are a couple of definitions of macro floating around. They overlap but don't coincide; and there are a couple of different types of macro in

Re: [abcusers] Re: My point of view on the abc standard

2003-07-03 Thread Buddha Buck
Jeff Bigler wrote: There's been a lot of traffic on this topic already. Two things I'd like to emphasize: I'd recommend that in general, we try not to add features to the standard unless: a) there is consensus (or at least an overwhelming majority opinion) as to what the feature

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread Buddha Buck
I. Oppenheim wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, David Webber wrote: I suspect that the only things the abc standard has to worry about, as far as applications on different platforms go, is to do with specification of text fonts The actual font type to be used is a typical issues for the stylesheet

Re: [abcusers] Re: abc and microtonality

2003-06-25 Thread Buddha Buck
Georg Hajdu wrote: 4/8 sharp IS a full sharp (as you know, the reference interval is always a whole tone). Therefore labeling it ^4 may be a bit misleading, but it's ok if you can use the symbols alternatively. Other than that, I like it. Microtonal notation is mostly used to _approximate_

Re: [abcusers] ps2gif?

2003-03-21 Thread Buddha Buck
John Chambers wrote: Chris comments: | Ooh, I like this one better. I imagine it's what you use in | tune-finder, am I right? It give a nice compact image (unlike convert, | which makes too much whitespace), and quite small files as well (reduced | by about a factor of 10). Yup; I just copied my

[abcusers] ABC transposition tool?

2003-02-24 Thread Buddha Buck
A friend of mine is a whistle/flageolet player and has whistles in all the popular keys -- but knows only the fingerings for the D-whistl to sight-read by. Rumor has it that most whistle tunes are written in D or G keys, even if they are intended to be played in other keys by suitable choice

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-31 Thread Buddha Buck
Kurt Kleiner wrote: On 30-Jan-2003 John Chambers wrote: This sort of site is a real threat to the recording industry, and is really what the music piracy fuss is all about. Their main goal is to take control of the Internet and put distribution back into the hands of the oligopoly. The

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-30 Thread Buddha Buck
John Chambers wrote: (Does this qualify as sufficiently funny to be a musical joke? ;-) It may be funny, but I don't think it's a joke. I think it falls into the ha ha only serious category. There is, unfortunately, a lot of truth in it. (I myself am a computer programmer, but I barely

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-30 Thread Buddha Buck
Toby Rider wrote: Can I repost those comments elsewhere off-list, with proper attribution (of course)? Which comments? Hopefully not the one about my friends having lot's of tattos and piercings.. :-) I've no problem with tatoos and piercings -- except that I've never felt strongly about

Re: [abcusers] Re : suggestions for [A4A2] notation

2002-08-21 Thread Buddha Buck
At 10:13 AM 08-12-2002 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Jack Campin wrote - OK, I'm with you and it's growing on me. It would be necessary for something I saw the other day which would need to be written [d6z2]2[B2G2][B2G2] although there would still need to be intelligence within

[abcusers] Tunefinder Feature Request

2002-07-16 Thread Buddha Buck
As I understand it, the tune finder does the following for every tune: 1. Extracts it from the source file 2. puts it into a canonical form: a. strips leading and trailing blank lines b. changes the line endings to a standard form c. (dunno about this one) strips trailing

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-05 Thread Buddha Buck
At 11:03 AM 06-05-2002 -0700, Don Parrish-Bell you wrote: Ok, Atte. I will check that out when I get to it. So it's possible to adjust existing abc tunes without major rewrites? A more global way of setting up the note-to-note spacing? abc has absolutely nothing to do with internote spacing

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-04 Thread Buddha Buck
At 10:44 AM 06-04-2002 -0700, Don Parrish-Bell you wrote: I haven't had the opportunity to try to encode anything yet, but I look forward to doing so. I'm saving the tons of posts from everyone so I can go back through for hints on various things when I do get to that point. One thing to keep

Re: [abcusers] Percussion notation...

2002-05-21 Thread Buddha Buck
At 03:08 PM 05-21-2002 +0100, Jack Campin you wrote: I suggested an approach to this in the keep-it-simple spirit of ABC some while ago. A lot of percussion scores use a one-line staff for each instrument, with the note stems going up for the right hand and down for the left. I

Re: [abcusers] äÌÑ ÄÉÒÅËÔÏÒÁ ... WQKOIKFYMT

2002-05-16 Thread Buddha Buck
At 11:38 AM 05-16-2002 -0700, Don Parrish-Bell you wrote: Hi, I hope you are not referring to me as a non-subscriber .. I just subscribed yesterday. Were you the one who sent Russian (I'm assuming, it was some form of Cyrillic text) spam to the list? Are you the one who's been trying to

Re: [abcusers] !fine! exclamation-point abuse

2002-05-01 Thread Buddha Buck
At 06:35 PM 05-01-2002 +, John Chambers you wrote: | On the other hand, I still think that the lack of a way to represent | dynamics and certain other commonly-used symbols is ABC's biggest | handicap. We could get into a real debate over what's the most serious handicap in ABC. My vote

RE: [abcusers] ties and accidentals

2002-02-06 Thread Buddha Buck
At 12:52 PM 02-06-2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, [iso-8859-1] Erik Ronström wrote: I think I'd get your point anyway. I don't think you do get my point. It seems self-evident to me that ABC is pseudo-staff notation. You have made it clear *that* you disagree,

Re: Re: [abcusers] ties and accidentals

2002-01-31 Thread Buddha Buck
At 08:30 AM 01-31-2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Hi, I have been following this discussion with interest. Maybe that shows my level of boredom, but. ;-) If you use ABC just as a way to save staff notation, and expect translations of ABC into staff notation to look in a

Re: Re: Re: [abcusers] ties and accidentals

2002-01-31 Thread Buddha Buck
At 10:37 AM 01-31-2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: snip = Excuuse me! I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come off sounding like an ass, but I can see how I might have. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Initial repeats

2001-12-20 Thread Buddha Buck
)2 structure (or similar, I'd have to double-check), so the first two repeat starts were adjacent, and *obviously* different. Laurie To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] I

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread Buddha Buck
At 01:34 PM 12-13-2001 +, James Allwright you wrote: On Thu 13 Dec 2001 at 11:57AM +, Phil Taylor wrote: A few things to consider when discussing repeat syntax: * It has to coexist happily with other methods of specifying repeats, such as the P: field in the header, and not rule

Re: [abcusers] Progress towards a new abc standard is: |:: ... ::|

2001-12-08 Thread Buddha Buck
with P:(AB)3 in that case. -- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will not die an ironic death -- Scott Ian, lead singer for the metal band Anthrax, after bioterrorist attacks using anthrax. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Open Source Project?

2001-11-28 Thread Buddha Buck
At 03:18 PM 11-28-2001 +, Laurie Griffiths you wrote: This is NOT directly ABC related, so you might call it Spam. If so, I apologise. I will try not to do it often! Taking some of Laura's pleas to heart I want to experiment with Open Source. I'm not prepared to risk the source code of

Re: [abcusers] something really simple

2001-11-21 Thread Buddha Buck
At 03:40 PM 11-21-2001 +, James Allwright you wrote: In an attempt to wrap up this thread, would the following proposal for a new field meet everyone's requirements ? Field Name: q:playing style Header: Yes Tune Body: No Would this make it impossible to transcribe music which is supposed

Re: [abcusers] something fairly complicated (Q: field)

2001-11-15 Thread Buddha Buck
At 11:40 AM 11-15-2001 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: A couple of questions: Q:Allegro Should display Allegro. But for playback, should it use a default tempo, or take a reasonable guess as to the appropriate beat, or generate an error? The same question applies if Allegro is used

Re: [abcusers] Looking for ABC transcriber.

2001-11-15 Thread Buddha Buck
At 08:12 PM 11-15-2001 +, Steve Mansfield you wrote: Anselm Lingnau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : A lot of Playford stuff is available from the US Library of Congress (they have a special page on the history of dancing, the URL of which escapes me right now), so one could go back right to the

Re: [abcusers] Looking for ABC transcriber.

2001-11-14 Thread Buddha Buck
At 05:11 PM 11-14-2001 +0100, Bert Van Vreckem wrote: I found a site of a Michael Robinson that's into traditional music, but the Playford transcription isn't mentioned: http://www.sirius.com/~ststones/. There's other abc stuff there, though. Actually, he has, buried in his Standing Stones

Re: [abcusers] abc libraries

2001-10-23 Thread Buddha Buck
At 11:53 AM 10-23-2001 -0500, Taral you wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 04:04:48PM +0100, Phil Taylor wrote: What did you have in mind for the output of your library Taral? int abc_find_index(int fd, int index); song *abc_parse_song(int fd); (Yes, I have the 'song' structure defined. It's big,

Re: [abcusers] merging voices

2001-10-04 Thread Buddha Buck
Laurie Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (I sent the following before my latest post and it hasn't turned up here - so I'm reposting on the assumption that it has fallen into a bitbucket or a timewarp). I saw it earlier. Unfortunately, there are some problems as far as I'm concerned both

Re: [abcusers] Missing the point by several miles

2001-09-28 Thread Buddha Buck
Steve Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Someone (name with-held to protect the terminally stupid) has just posted the following to the feedback part of my abc tutorial site ... I AM VERY DISAPOINTED WITH ABC TO CONTINUE BILL MAHER TO STAY ON TV AFTER THE THINGS HE HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE

Re: [abcusers] Re: [abcusers] Re: [abcusers] ˲¼äÌá¸ß°Ù±¶ ·ÃÎÊÁ¿£¡

2001-09-27 Thread Buddha Buck
At 01:32 PM 09-27-2001 -0400, Stephen Black wrote: Would someone mind telling us what this is?? It certainly doesn't look like abc to me! It looks Chinese to me -- or at least, the characters my mailer showed me looked Chinese. It definitely wasn't Korean, Japanese or Vietnamese. I don't read