I very much second James's observation about the awkwardness of having to
return a table object as the row or column header for a cell. Was there a
reason behind that decision? Is it too late to reconsider an amendment? (smile)
Best regards,
--Andres.
> -Original Message-
> From:
On 29/05/2009 9:58 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
>> Having said this, it just occurred to me that using described by
>> relations is problematic in that you can't determine what is a column
>> header and what is a row header without querying the row and column
>> coordinates for the header cell
> Jam
James, I think you just need to get a role of related accessibles. Do
I miss something?
Alex.
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:06 AM, James Teh wrote:
> On 29/05/2009 12:40 AM, Rob Gallo wrote:
>> I actually don't like the idea of described by relations for table headers.
>> It's non-standard, and it
On 29/05/2009 12:40 AM, Rob Gallo wrote:
> I actually don't like the idea of described by relations for table headers.
> It's non-standard, and it blurs the line between the table interface and
> relations. In my mind, they have separate purposes.
I'd argue that it does have some precedent in stand
I think table headers would be much more preferable to relations.
Thanks,
RG
-Original Message-
From: Alexander Surkov [mailto:surkov.alexan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:08 AM
To: Rob Gallo
Cc: IA2 List
Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] rowHeader/columnHeader
implem
Rob. I treat the documentation
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/tables.html#h-11.4 as we should
provide relations. Do you think it's rather header tables than
relations?
Alex.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Rob Gallo
wrote:
> Alex,
>
> I actually don't like the idea of described by relati
Alex,
I actually don't like the idea of described by relations for table headers.
It's non-standard, and it blurs the line between the table interface and
relations. In my mind, they have separate purposes.
Thanks,
RG
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From: accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfou
Rob, sorry but I didn't get why?
Alex.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Rob Gallo
wrote:
> Alex,
>
> I would not use the information from tfoot, just thead.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> RG
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alexander Surkov [mailto:surkov.alexan...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May
One more question. Since described_by/description_for relations are
exposed on cells and header cells both, i.e. multiple described_by
relations should be exposed on cell to link it with row and column
header cells, then how much does this overlap with idea of
IAccessibleTable for headers? I mean w
Alex,
I would not use the information from tfoot, just thead.
Thanks,
RG
-Original Message-
From: Alexander Surkov [mailto:surkov.alexan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:00 AM
To: Rob Gallo
Cc: p...@a11ysoft.com; Willie Walker; IA2 List
Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia
Hi, Pete.
> Just to be sure, are you saying you can't build tables with spanning cells
> in ARIA?
As far as I know yes. I just checked this with David Bolter, he confirmed.
Alex.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Pete Brunet wrote:
> Alex, The aria example is an interesting scenario. I think
Ah, I get it now.
Thanks,
RG
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[mailto:accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
Pete Brunet
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:53 AM
To: IA2 List
Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2]
rowHeader/columnHeaderi
Hi, Pete.
> Also, one feedback I got was that an AT would not expect to manipulate the
> cell in the table header expecting it to reflect that change in the primary
> table.
It really would be nice to have an example of usage here. What can be
changed in header table so that it shouldn't be refle
Right because of thead and tfoot usage the same time. Could you give
me idea how column header table might look and what is
startingRowIndex? Does this table contain rows from thead plus tfoot?
Alex.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Rob Gallo wrote:
> Are you asking because there is a tfoot?
>
Are you asking because there is a tfoot?
This seems pretty straight forward to me; so I'd like to know why the
confusion.
Thanks,
RG
-Original Message-
From: Alexander Surkov [mailto:surkov.alexan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:44 AM
To: Rob Gallo
Cc: p...@a11ysoft.c
Alex, The aria example is an interesting scenario. I think in the vast
majority of cases the non header cells in a row that contains header
cells would be empty.
Just to be sure, are you saying you can't build tables with spanning
cells in ARIA?
Rob, For rowHeader, it's an out which indicates th
By the way, what kind of table should columnHeader return for the case
colcol
cellcell
colcol
Alex.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Alexander Surkov
wrote:
> Hi, Rob.
>
> This index is where header table is started relative m
Hi, Rob.
This index is where header table is started relative main table. I
think it might make sense for example like
cellcell
colcol
If we would consider dual method to rowHeader, then out argument
startingRowIndex will be 1.
Alex.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9
Alex,
I think this is good.
But what is the purpose of the second parameter? I'm not sure this is
supposed to be an [out] parameter.
HRESULT rowHeader(
[out] IAccessibleTable **accessibleTable,
[out, retval] long * startingColumnIndex) [get]
Thanks,
RG
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