Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Object Attributes spec needs work

2010-12-01 Thread James Teh
On 1/12/2010 2:51 AM, David Bolter wrote: More and more I see a need for accessibility solutions to rely less on roles. We see some pretty interesting UI on the web, and the kinds of assumptions that could historically be made on the desktop, can no longer be made. I think we need to be able

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Object Attributes spec needs work

2010-12-01 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
James, We are going to need a more flexible way of supporting custom components for the Web. Properties and states need to be discoverable and processable - and so do custom roles. I think roles will end up becoming identifiers for common design patterns. This will part of the work in ARIA 2.0.

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Object Attributes spec needs work

2010-12-01 Thread David Bolter
On 01/12/10 5:18 AM, James Teh wrote: On 1/12/2010 2:51 AM, David Bolter wrote: More and more I see a need for accessibility solutions to rely less on roles. We see some pretty interesting UI on the web, and the kinds of assumptions that could historically be made on the desktop, can no

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Object Attributes spec needs work

2010-12-01 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
We also need to start collecting new common design patterns on the Web and ensure we are moving in the right direction on the infrastructure. Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group From: David Bolter david.bol...@gmail.com To: James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org Cc:

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_STATE_CHECKABLE

2010-12-01 Thread Andres Gonzalez
...this state is necessary in those cases where an object has a role which is not one of the previously mentioned roles but does have the behavior of having two states... I'd lax the two state conditions, since there are things like 3state check boxes, which one could think of as