Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-27 Thread Alexander Surkov
Hi, Joanie. I'm fine with that. I suggested this to make it easier for AT to detect whether placeholder is valuable as a placeholder but as long as everybody is onboard I don't really mind, especially if the it was in WebKit for a while. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Joanmarie Diggs

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-27 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
I want to also consider HTML5.1 native host language semantics. If we have an HTML5 checkbox I would think that the native placeholder attribute would win, over aria-placeholder, as that text would be visible. Do you agree Steve? Rich Schwerdtfeger From: Joanmarie Diggs

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-27 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
On 04/27/2015 05:49 PM, Steve Faulkner wrote: On 27 April 2015 at 22:40, Richard Schwerdtfeger sch...@us.ibm.com mailto:sch...@us.ibm.com wrote: I want to also consider HTML5.1 native host language semantics. If we have an HTML5 checkbox I would think that the native placeholder

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-27 Thread Steve Faulkner
On 27 April 2015 at 22:40, Richard Schwerdtfeger sch...@us.ibm.com wrote: I want to also consider HTML5.1 native host language semantics. If we have an HTML5 checkbox I would think that the native placeholder attribute would win, over aria-placeholder, as that text would be visible. Do you

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-27 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Joseph, fyi: assuming Joanie and Alex agree on an object attribute, see below. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger From: Steve Faulkner faulkner.st...@gmail.com To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS Cc: Joanmarie Diggs jdi...@igalia.com, IAccessible2 mailing list

[Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-27 Thread Alexander Surkov
Hi. In Firefox HTML placeholder attribute is mapped to accessible name if label is not provided (either native or ARIA one). Otherwise it's ignored. There are strong opinions that placeholder needs own mapping since it's separate concept from the accessible name and AT want to treat it special