Yes, that is possible. He also said that would be hideous. :-) One concern is the growth of object attributes and the mechanism to get them. Perhaps we need a new interface to object attributes like a hashing table.
Rich Sent from my iPad > On Jul 28, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I'd say the problem is in restrictions of IAccessibleTable as it describes > the continuous model only, while ARIA allows to have "gaps" in tables. So if > a table has a gap and spanning right before the gap then we should use a > mechanism other than IAccessibleTable. Jamie suggested to use object > attributes which sounds reasonable. > Alex. > >> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <sch...@us.ibm.com> >> wrote: >> I am continuing the discussion on the list. It sounds like we have two >> models - contiguous rows/columns vs. author specified. >> >> Should we say that if the author is going to provide row and column spans >> that user agents NOT compute the indices? IOW, It must all be left up to the >> author. >> >> It sounds like the issue is that we are fighting with trying to compute the >> results vs. what the author is putting in. >> >> Rich >> >> >> Rich Schwerdtfeger >> ----- Forwarded by Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM on 07/28/2015 09:31 AM >> ----- >> >> From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexan...@gmail.com> >> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS >> Cc: Brett Lewis <ble...@freedomscientific.com>, David Bolter >> <dbol...@mozilla.com>, Frank DiPalermo/Austin/Contr/IBM@IBMUS >> Date: 07/28/2015 09:19 AM >> Subject: Re: ARIA 1.1 feature status >> >> >> >> Hi, Rich. Here's Jamie's example [1] where putting ARIA span into >> IAccessibleTable interface may be not trivial. I suggest to move discussion >> to IA2 channel if possible. >> >> [1] >> http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2015-June/001913.html >> >> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <sch...@us.ibm.com> >> wrote: >> That does not make sense. It is essentially the same attribute. >> >> >> Rich Schwerdtfeger >> >> <M2.gif>Alexander Surkov ---07/27/2015 08:16:15 PM---They are exposed via >> IAccessibleTable interface which seems to be inapplicable for ARIA spanning. >> >> From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexan...@gmail.com> >> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS >> Cc: Brett Lewis <ble...@freedomscientific.com>, David Bolter >> <dbol...@mozilla.com>, Frank DiPalermo/Austin/Contr/IBM@IBMUS >> Date: 07/27/2015 08:16 PM >> >> Subject: Re: ARIA 1.1 feature status >> >> >> >> >> They are exposed via IAccessibleTable interface which seems to be >> inapplicable for ARIA spanning. >> >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <sch...@us.ibm.com> >> wrote: >> How do you expose rowspan and colspan for HTML tables? >> >> >> Rich Schwerdtfeger >> >> <M2.gif>Alexander Surkov ---07/27/2015 04:06:58 PM---Hi, Brett. All but >> colspan/rowspan are implemented by Nightly. >> arai-colcount/rowcount/colindex/rowin >> >> From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexan...@gmail.com> >> To: Brett Lewis <ble...@freedomscientific.com> >> Cc: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, Frank >> DiPalermo/Austin/Contr/IBM@IBMUS, David Bolter <dbol...@mozilla.com> >> Date: 07/27/2015 04:06 PM >> Subject: Re: ARIA 1.1 feature status >> >> >> >> Hi, Brett. All but colspan/rowspan are implemented by Nightly. >> arai-colcount/rowcount/colindex/rowindex are exposed as GroupPosition on >> cells and rows. There's no understanding yet on how to expose >> aria-colspan/rowspan [1]. >> >> [1] >> http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2015-June/001913.html >> >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Brett Lewis <ble...@freedomscientific.com> >> wrote: >> Hi Alex, >> I am starting work on JAWS support for the new ARIA 1.1 features. >> I wanted to see where you are w/r/t Firefox support for these. >> I was thinking of starting with the table related roles, does Firefox >> support these? >> How about: >> aria-colcount >> aria-rowcount >> aria-colindex >> aria-rowindex >> aria-colspan >> aria-rowspan >> >> Do you have a general time line for all the ARIA 1.1 features? (even just >> an ordering of which features will be implemented first)? >> Do you have a bug record for these? >> Thanks for any info you might have. >> Brett >> >> >> Brett Lewis >> Software Developer >> Freedom Scientific, Inc >> 727-299-6270 >> ble...@freedomscientific.com >> >> www.freedomscientific.com >> >> Connect with us: >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Accessibility-ia2 mailing list >> Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 >
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