Re: [Accessibility-ia2] HTML5 meter element

2018-01-04 Thread James Teh
I think a new role for meter makes sense, yes. There's also precedent for this: ATK has ATK_ROLE_LEVEL_BAR (I think that's the name). On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 1:42 AM, Alexander Surkov < surkov.alexan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. > > Jason raised a concern [1] that HTML5 meter has different

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] HTML elements mapping

2018-01-04 Thread James Teh
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 7:37 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote: > We could add new roles if we have to, however it would make IA2 unique, > since no other API seems use roles for elements like HTML:q. > That's true, but ATK does have a role for blockquote, for example, and I

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] HTML elements mapping

2018-01-03 Thread James Teh
Hi Alex, If all of these things have semantic value, we really should be creating new roles for them. However, we probably don't have time to make that happen given the status of the mappings, so the below answers assume we don't create new roles. Note that in IA2, blockquote doesn't have a role

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] ARIA set-size=-1 mapping

2017-08-03 Thread James Teh
Hi. I don't think we need a state for this. IAccessible2::groupPosition already exists and it doesn't define meanings for -1, so I think we could just return similarItemsInGroup as -1. Jamie On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote: > Hey. > > ARIA

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2017-02-21 Thread James Teh
Hi guys, Sorry for the delay in responding. I needed to find time to sit down and digest all of this. :) 1. Alex, your (thorough) outline of how this should work looks correct to me and is what I intended. Thanks. 2. Moving to the first cell in the table is easily achieved by

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2017-02-09 Thread James Teh
or screen readers to be as robust as possible at > dealing with sparse tables using existing APIs. Then if we also want to add > additional APIs to make this faster and easier, that's great too. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:50 PM James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org> wrote: > >> I supp

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] HTML placeholder attribute

2016-10-20 Thread James Teh
d placeholder-text for ATK could make life > harder for implementators, at least it definitely will do in Firefox case. > > [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1303429 > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 7:08 PM, James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org> wrote: > >> Visually,

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Digital Publishing ARIA module

2016-09-28 Thread James Teh
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 1:27 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: > 1. I support fidelity between Linux and Windows platforms. So, I don't > have a problem with IA2_ROLE_SECTION. We really have not used > IA2_ROLE_SECTION anywhere in the Core mapping spec. > That's possibly

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Digital Publishing ARIA module

2016-09-27 Thread James Teh
Hi rich, Following are some concerns regarding the mapping for IA2: 1. doc-abstract is mapped to IA2_ROLE_LANDMARK, but it isn't specified a subclass of landmark, nor is it mapped to ROLE_LANDMARK for ATK. I think it should be mapped to IA2_ROLE_SECTION. 2. doc-colophon, doc-credit,

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Reverse relationships

2016-09-18 Thread James Teh
reader user. However, Brett did express a desire to be able to access the element referenced by details. Brett, could you perhaps provide a use case? I'll go ahead and review the proposed change as is regardless. I'd still like to see a use case for details reverse, though. Jamie -- James Teh

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-16 Thread James Teh
IMO, xml-roles is a really horrible hack. An object attribute makes sense for things like landmarks because a landmark is more like an attribute of the element, rather than how it behaves/what it is. I argued a long time ago that landmark should have been a specific "landmark" attribute, but

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] HTML placeholder attribute

2016-09-14 Thread James Teh
gt;__ *From:*Alexander Surkov [mailto:surkov.alexan...@gmail.com <mailto:surkov.alexan...@gmail.com>] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:52 PM *To:* Brett Lewis <ble...@vfo-group.com <mailto:ble...@vfo-group.com>>; James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org <mailto:ja

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Agreement on concatenation of aria-describedby and aria-errormessage relationships

2016-09-07 Thread James Teh
, that may be not suitable for stringification in general. [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#aria-details On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:31 PM, James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org <mailto:ja...@nvaccess.org>> wrote: That doesn't solve the need to walk the tree to gather the error mess

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Reverse relationships

2016-09-07 Thread James Teh
e relationships We need agreement: Should the error message and details relationships have reverse mappings? Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: h

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Reverse relationships

2016-09-06 Thread James Teh
only problem with adding it later is you will also then need to test if that reverse relation ship exists and what to do with older browsers that won't have the relationship. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger - Original message - From: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Agreement on concatenation of aria-describedby and aria-errormessage relationships

2016-09-06 Thread James Teh
- From: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, surkov.alexan...@gmail.com, ble...@freedomscientific.com, jdi...@igalia.com Cc: accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: Agreement on concatenation of aria-descr

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Bitmask for rare accessibility attributes

2016-09-06 Thread James Teh
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Agreement on concatenation of aria-describedby and aria-errormessage relationships

2016-09-06 Thread James Teh
will definitely pay dividends for assistive technology users. Would each of you weigh in. Again this is now holding up 3 working groups going on 3 weeks now. Do we agree on not concatenating the two strings? Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Form role mapping

2016-09-06 Thread James Teh
up 3 working groups - ARIA, HTML, and SVG. Rich Schwerdtfeger -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org ___ Accessibility-i

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 Role Landmark

2016-08-24 Thread James Teh
is that it has not gone a way but rather it is going to this new preferred mapping. Best, Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger On Aug 23, 2016, at 7:35 PM, James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org <mailto:ja...@nvaccess.org>> wrote: If you believe that role="form" has no semant

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-details and aria-errormessage mapping

2016-08-21 Thread James Teh
l often have content in it, including links, that the user may need to navigate to to get help about the error. The aria referenced error messages are all required to be visible to apply the relatinship. Rich Schwerdtfeger - Original message ----- From: James Teh <ja...@nvacce

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-details and aria-errormessage mapping

2016-08-21 Thread James Teh
nd will be back from vacation next week. Best, Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger - Original message - From: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, surkov.alexan...@gmail.com Cc: accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org, jdi...@igali

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-04-13 Thread James Teh
ltip when the user mouses over the control. A corollary is that the error message conveys a sense of urgency or obligation -- something needs to be fixed -- whereas the description does not. -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-04-12 Thread James Teh
the impression that my original proposal was not seen as acceptable, and because you suggested a new relation type: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2016-February/002019.html --joanie On 04/11/2016 08:18 PM, James Teh wrote: On 12/04/2016 3:26 AM, Joanmarie Diggs

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-03-01 Thread James Teh
. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-02-24 Thread James Teh
the relationship pair, I don't mind. >> >> --joanie >> >>> On 02/23/2016 06:03 PM, James Teh wrote: >>> Sounds great. I'm happy with this mapping. >>> >>> Would this message be included in the concatenated description string >>> fo

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-02-23 Thread James Teh
To: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org> Cc: IA2 List <accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation.org>; ARIA Working Group <public-a...@w3.org> Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2 Hey Jamie. Yeah, we have a description property which

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 Role Landmark

2016-02-23 Thread James Teh
platform, then I guess the justification is the desire to keep our completely different platforms as aligned as possible. And if you accept ROLE_LANDMARK, the next time one of us has to compromise/give in, it will be my turn. --joanie On 02/22/2016 08:37 PM, James Teh wrote: Hi Rich, I don't

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-kbdshortcuts for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-02-23 Thread James Teh
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 Role Landmark

2016-02-22 Thread James Teh
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2016-01-05 Thread James Teh
with your algorithm. then try column x in that row, and if that fails, navigate to the first cell in that row. We never want to fall back to the first column like that. If a user moves down a row, they expect to move down a row, not down and across (excepting column spans). Jamie -- James Teh

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2016-01-03 Thread James Teh
. That certainly is a problem, yes. I guess another solution could be to extend IAccessibleTableCell to provide a way to get to the next cell in a given direction. I *think* that would solve the start/middle gap problem. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] a new method to retrieve the selection

2015-12-08 Thread James Teh
in my text. My apologies for the misunderstanding. Jamie On 9/12/2015 9:04 AM, James Teh wrote: But it's *not* the start of the range. And if you're going to say start and end, you may as well rename anchor and active to start and end. :) Jamie On 9/12/2015 5:50 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] a new method to retrieve the selection

2015-12-06 Thread James Teh
Alex. [1] http://git.linuxfoundation.org/?p=a11y/ia2.git;a=commitdiff;h=85deaf1a1514f0c5e6a59e8c9b6606abfb6e6813 -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org _

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] a new method to retrieve the selection

2015-12-06 Thread James Teh
pretty difficult to come up with interfaces for those that make any real sense aside from their method names. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-current thread on ia2

2015-12-02 Thread James Teh
all states because the server side penalty is far less than the penalty of multiple cross-proc calls. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nv

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-current thread on ia2

2015-12-02 Thread James Teh
sense to go through the trouble of introducing a new state. Just a correction, though: aria-autocomplete does expose IA2_STATE_SUPPORTS_AUTOCOMPLETION; at least, it does in Firefox. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-current thread on ia2

2015-12-01 Thread James Teh
://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fw: ARIA 1.1 feature status aria-rowspan and aria-colspan

2015-08-05 Thread James Teh
/interface_i_accessible2__2.html#a6cda836322d18e6206e10291b395aa55. Not yet implemented though. One concern with that though is that you can only fetch one attribute at a time if you use it, which is nasty for out-proc usage. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-roledescription

2015-06-28 Thread James Teh
://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#aria-roledescription ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping

2015-06-24 Thread James Teh
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping

2015-06-24 Thread James Teh
use groupPosition? Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-29 Thread James Teh
something obvious here? Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-29 Thread James Teh
. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-29 Thread James Teh
easier, but if you've already made this choice for ATK, changing it there now obviously isn't an option. In that case, this discussion is purely academic for you. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Accessibility-ia2 Digest, Vol 72, Issue 1

2014-11-06 Thread James Teh
you can't register the NVDA proxy dlls. We don't need that functionality, so we don't build it. Unfortunately, that means you'll need to build your own dll. This should be easy enough once you have the IA2 idl, though I don't remember the exact instructions. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IAccessible2 Proxy.DLL for 64 bit browser support

2014-11-03 Thread James Teh
help me to solve this issue. Thanks, Rajesh ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] STATE_INDETERMINATE as a means to indicate things like unknowable set size?

2014-09-30 Thread James Teh
control to be checkable. This could include an item which has groupPosition. So, for example, what if there were a tri-state checkable tree item? How would you tell whether it were tri-state or in an indeterminate group? Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_TOGGLE_BUTTON is not recommend by spec

2014-02-25 Thread James Teh
as IA2_ROLE_TOGGLE_BUTTON IOW if you are ever to use a pressed state then you should change the role to IA2_ROLE_TOGGLE_BUTTON Cheers, Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger Inactive hide details for James Teh ---02/20/2014 05:50:12 PM---Further to this, the IA2 spec recommends using ROLE_SYSTEM_PUSHJames Teh ---02/20/2014 05:50

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_TOGGLE_BUTTON is not recommend by spec

2014-02-20 Thread James Teh
=390284 [3] https://developer.gnome.org/atk/unstable/AtkObject.html ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-07-19 Thread James Teh
On 16/07/2013 11:09 PM, Pete Brunet wrote: The site is now updated: http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/ Hopefully buildapi.sh and ia2_api_all.idl are OK now. The idl is now correct. Thanks! Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Ph + 61 7 5667 8372 www.nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-07-09 Thread James Teh
On 9/07/2013 5:13 PM, James Teh wrote: Now, the IDL includes Accessible2.idl before AccessibleRelation.idl, which breaks because IAccessible2 depends on IAccessibleRelation. Alex: I'm curious as to why you didn't hit this issue at Mozilla. Does Mozilla use the official merged IDL or do you

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Object attribute format

2013-05-16 Thread James Teh
implicit. It isn't something I considered while writing NVDA's IA2 attributes parser, so it won't handle this without changes. It's probably reasonable that others may not have considered it either. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-04-22 Thread James Teh
in or before September last year when you released the initial version of 1.3 for review. Thanks, Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-04-21 Thread James Teh
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Plea for a new function

2013-02-25 Thread James Teh
given that IAccessibleHyper* should really cover this, but at least it's an isolated hack. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Plea for a new function

2013-02-10 Thread James Teh
to allow it for ancestors, the method should probably also return the relevant ancestor. Alex, can you explain why using IAccessibleHyperlink breaks backwards compatibility as opposed to adding this new method? Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Plea for a new function

2013-02-10 Thread James Teh
IAccessibleHypertext wouldn't return the text leaf nodes. See notes on hack below. pure IAccessibleHyperlink on text leafs is rather a hack than it suites them well. It's a total hack. However, imo, this whole idea is a hack. :) Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Plea for a new function

2012-11-26 Thread James Teh
specific characters in a text leaf node. Thanks, Brett -Original Message- From: accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org [mailto:accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Surkov Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:30 PM To: James Teh Cc

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Plea for a new function

2012-11-20 Thread James Teh
___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2012-10-10 Thread James Teh
-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2012-10-10 Thread James Teh
with EnumVariant at all but we added maxCount 'in' argument. Should we have it here as well? We could do that. The question is whether an AT is ever going to want to retrieve anything other than one or all hyperlinks. I can only come up with use cases for one or all. Jamie -- James Teh Director

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2012-10-10 Thread James Teh
and custom ones would be strings? Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2012-09-25 Thread James Teh
://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Using IA2 live region / politeness outside of HTML content

2012-09-11 Thread James Teh
___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] ia2_api_all.idl

2012-09-10 Thread James Teh
) http://www.a11ysoft.com/about/ Ionosphere: WS4G ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IAccessible2_2 inherits from IAccessible

2012-09-10 Thread James Teh
) http://www.a11ysoft.com/about/ Ionosphere: WS4G ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IAHypertext - remove nHyperlinks, hyperlink?

2012-09-08 Thread James Teh
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Please review object attribute additions

2012-08-21 Thread James Teh
it'd be better to write The value can be either ascending or descending and indicates the order in which an object's items are sorted. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Please review object attribute additions

2012-08-21 Thread James Teh
on aria-relevant. Perhaps this text might work: True when this live region (i.e. this object and its subtree) should be presented as a whole when relevant changes occur within it. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Getting the document accessible

2012-08-15 Thread James Teh
sure we are solving a real problem before inflating IA2. -Pete On 2/22/12 4:27 PM, James Teh wrote: On 22/02/2012 6:54 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote: The proposed document accessible concept is close to DOM document. ... One example was get_accChild that can return child accessible by uniqueID. True

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] The display object attribute

2012-08-15 Thread James Teh
specific, so probably shouldn't be included in the IA2 spec. Maybe a note is needed to explain that browsers might expose more values, though. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Explicit name

2012-08-14 Thread James Teh
, but if that is the case, grabbed shouldn't be included either. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IEnumVARIANT vs arrays

2012-03-05 Thread James Teh
with requestedTargets=1. If there are no targets, nTargets would be 0 and the targets array would be empty or NULL. If there is at least one target, nTargets would be 1 and the targets array would contain one entry. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IEnumVARIANT vs arrays

2012-03-04 Thread James Teh
/ Ionosphere: WS4G ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Getting the document accessible

2012-02-22 Thread James Teh
, but it does allow for a bit of flexibility. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Getting the document accessible

2012-02-21 Thread James Teh
of the word and therefore document operations (such as fetching the most recent target) don't apply to them. However, perhaps I'm being too literal. I don't really mind either way. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Finding the most recent target of the most recent activation of an in page link

2012-02-12 Thread James Teh
special than, say, flowsTo or labelledBy? I guess it doesn't fit relations entirely, as it isn't strictly related so much as state information. If that argument is consensus, fair enough. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org

[Accessibility-ia2] IA2 intended to be in-process? [was accessibleWithCaret - caretOffset]

2011-09-07 Thread James Teh
in-process, but unless your assertion is true, the addition of new methods like this should be avoided. NVDA uses IA2 both out-of-process and in-process. I think this in-process only principle needs to be clarified, as it has come up several times in various discussions. Jamie -- James Teh Vice

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] [Accessibility] Question re support for HTML 5 in AT-SPI and IA2

2011-08-09 Thread James Teh
another list? It makes more sense to make the original list (and its items) focusable. Pasting would then insert at the position of the focus. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President, Developer NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] HTML table summary mapping to IA2

2011-08-08 Thread James Teh
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Explicit name

2011-07-31 Thread James Teh
is true if the server prefers the use of the accessible name over the text from IAccessibleText::text. Return values: S_OK -- James Teh Vice President, Developer NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Explicit name

2011-07-25 Thread James Teh
at all. Perhaps this sentence neds to be amended slightly to make it clear that this is only relevant to servers which choose to expose content via IAccessibleText. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President, Developer NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http

[Accessibility-ia2] Accessing specific actions without iteration [was Proposal for html5 media]

2011-07-21 Thread James Teh
On 22/07/2011 11:40 AM, Pete Brunet wrote: What do you think of using IAAction::doAction with IA2 specified negative numbers That sounds good to me. I'm guessing IAccessible::doAction will throw E_INVALIDARG if the requested action is not available? Jamie -- James Teh Vice President

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Braille devices and live regions

2011-07-07 Thread James Teh
is fairly inefficient. I'm thinking something similar to the proposed relations change. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President, Developer NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] solution for video text descriptions

2011-07-06 Thread James Teh
description causes. Braille could be a nice way of silently accessing the descriptions. However, as I noted before, I think a scrolling transcript is the best way to do this. The user can always disable scrolling if they wish or scroll back to read something they missed. Jamie -- James Teh

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] solution for video text descriptions

2011-07-06 Thread James Teh
, particularly as it seems to make sense. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President, Developer NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] next changes to IAccessible2

2011-06-20 Thread James Teh
about how the data is accessed and processed by the browser. I'd argue we should be concerned about both, rather than only thinking about the majority use case. As I understand it, IA2 wasn't designed to be in-process only, otherwise there wouldn't be official proxy dlls. Jamie -- James Teh Vice

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Object Attributes spec needs work

2010-12-01 Thread James Teh
with the idea of checkable table cells. These could just as well be treated as a checkbox within a table cell. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_STATE_PINNED

2010-11-23 Thread James Teh
On 24/11/2010 2:01 AM, David Bolter wrote: Event subscription. That's hardly going to make it into a point release. Also, as Mick pointed out, what about IsWinEventHookInstalled()? Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_STATE_PINNED

2010-11-18 Thread James Teh
time that Firefox 4 doesn't have. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] line-number object attribute and the IA2 object attribute spec in general

2010-08-05 Thread James Teh
of representing a document; i.e. Symphony's object per paragraph approach and Gecko's hierarchy of embedded objects approach. ATs need to move away from special casing for every different application and this would not help in that move. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] a11y support registry API

2010-06-21 Thread James Teh
software need it to disable events. Unfortunately, getting such software to support this API in a timely fashion is going to be tricky at best. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] screen reader present flag

2010-05-25 Thread James Teh
it wouldn't send the message. Regardless of whether it is an AT, it is requesting the info for a reason. The accessibility hierarchy is not supposed to be specific to any particular type of AT; it should just expose objects according to the spec. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] screen reader present flag

2010-05-25 Thread James Teh
GUI because someone is using an AT. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] screen reader present flag

2010-05-24 Thread James Teh
solution is to watch for WM_GETOBJECT and enable accessibility APIs dynamically. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] screen reader present flag

2010-05-24 Thread James Teh
of the tree lazily only when requested? Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: text attribute range calculation

2010-05-19 Thread James Teh
attributes makes sense for normal text only. Agreed. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: text attribute range calculation

2010-05-18 Thread James Teh
)[*)[plain)[*)[*)[bold)[*)[bold)[*). [This] suggestion is quicker supposedly if we don't think about method call cost I assume you mean quicker on the app side? I don't think it would ever be quicker on the AT side. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja

[Accessibility-ia2] IAccessible2 inheritance of IAccessible

2010-05-07 Thread James Teh
if necessary, but no production implementation currently requires this, so I'm wondering whether this aspect of the spec needs to change. Thanks. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org

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