Re: [Accessibility-ia2] rowHeader/columnHeader implementationproposal

2009-05-28 Thread James Teh
think you just need to get a role of related accessibles. Do I miss something? Nope, I did. Sorry. I forgot there were roles for row header and column header. My concern is thus invalid. :) -- James Teh Email/MSN Messenger/Jabber: ja...@jantrid.net Web site: http://www.jantrid.net

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] rowHeader/columnHeader implementationproposal

2009-06-23 Thread James Teh
is that the current columnHeader/rowHeader interface is a little obscure at best. However, I'd be happy with new dedicated methods. Unfortunately, adding methods to the interface is something that has yet to be discussed with regard to compatibility, etc. -- James Teh Email/MSN Messenger

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] rowHeader/columnHeader implementationproposal

2009-06-23 Thread James Teh
something here? Jamie -- James Teh Email/MSN Messenger/Jabber: ja...@jantrid.net Web site: http://www.jantrid.net/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] rowHeader/columnHeader implementationproposal

2009-06-23 Thread James Teh
consistent. It also saves calling columnIndex/rowIndex unnecessarily. -- James Teh Email/MSN Messenger/Jabber: ja...@jantrid.net Web site: http://www.jantrid.net/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IATable changes

2009-07-06 Thread James Teh
methods that take both a row and column index should be changed to take an accessible; e.g. columnExtentAt and rowExtentAt. Generally, one will have the cell object if one is querying it, and if not, it is not hard to retrieve; it's certainly much simpler than before. Jamie -- James Teh Email/MSN

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IAccessibleTable2

2009-07-15 Thread James Teh
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Relations

2009-10-22 Thread James Teh
account for the fact that a relation may have multiple targets. Jamie -- James Teh Email/MSN Messenger/Jabber: ja...@jantrid.net Web site: http://www.jantrid.net/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Relations

2009-10-22 Thread James Teh
the old interface and just add the new methods to the subclassed interface, rather than replacing it altogether. See MSHTML for example. Jamie -- James Teh Email/MSN Messenger/Jabber: ja...@jantrid.net Web site: http://www.jantrid.net

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] new method(s) for fetching attributes

2009-10-22 Thread James Teh
behaviour. This may be one of those cases where it's simpler to leave it alone. Having said that, I'd certainly be happy with an array. Jamie -- James Teh Email/MSN Messenger/Jabber: ja...@jantrid.net Web site: http://www.jantrid.net/ ___ Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] RELATION_NODE_PARENT_OF

2009-11-09 Thread James Teh
this relation as well. On the another hand new relation will keep IA2 and ATK more closely what is good in general. While NVDA doesn't really have a use for this at present, I think it makes sense for the sake of symmetry if nothing else. Jamie -- James Teh Email/MSN Messenger/Jabber: ja

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] accessibility of HTML5 input controls

2010-04-14 Thread James Teh
@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Deprecation of IA2_STATE_SINGLE_LINE

2010-04-15 Thread James Teh
like paragraph should be used. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Deprecate IA2_TEXT_BOUNDARY_ALL?

2010-04-15 Thread James Teh
implemented. Are there any other options that indicate that this particular request isn't implemented? Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] text attribute range calculation

2010-04-15 Thread James Teh
@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] text attribute range calculation

2010-04-15 Thread James Teh
this in reverse; i.e. any embedded objects at the end of the text have their own range. In this case, offsets 0 through 11 would return (0, 12). Offsets 12 through 22 would return (12, 23). Offset 23 would return (23, 24). Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Relations

2010-04-15 Thread James Teh
On 15/04/2010 8:36 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote: Jamie, how many targets should AT request to get all of them from IEnumVariant? I think we will probably still need to have a getRelationCount or similar which accepts an optional relation type. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] text attribute range calculation

2010-04-17 Thread James Teh
do this in reverse; i.e. any embedded objects at the end of the text have their own range. In this case, offsets 0 through 11 would return (0, 12). Offsets 12 through 22 would return (12, 23). Offset 23 would return (23, 24). Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: text attribute range calculation

2010-04-17 Thread James Teh
if it is going to happen. Alex, if this is going to affect ATK as well, we should probably pull Joanie and maybe others into the discussion. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org

[Accessibility-ia2] IAccessible2 inheritance of IAccessible

2010-05-07 Thread James Teh
if necessary, but no production implementation currently requires this, so I'm wondering whether this aspect of the spec needs to change. Thanks. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: text attribute range calculation

2010-05-18 Thread James Teh
)[*)[plain)[*)[*)[bold)[*)[bold)[*). [This] suggestion is quicker supposedly if we don't think about method call cost I assume you mean quicker on the app side? I don't think it would ever be quicker on the AT side. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: text attribute range calculation

2010-05-19 Thread James Teh
attributes makes sense for normal text only. Agreed. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] screen reader present flag

2010-05-24 Thread James Teh
solution is to watch for WM_GETOBJECT and enable accessibility APIs dynamically. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] screen reader present flag

2010-05-24 Thread James Teh
of the tree lazily only when requested? Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] screen reader present flag

2010-05-25 Thread James Teh
it wouldn't send the message. Regardless of whether it is an AT, it is requesting the info for a reason. The accessibility hierarchy is not supposed to be specific to any particular type of AT; it should just expose objects according to the spec. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] screen reader present flag

2010-05-25 Thread James Teh
GUI because someone is using an AT. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] a11y support registry API

2010-06-21 Thread James Teh
software need it to disable events. Unfortunately, getting such software to support this API in a timely fashion is going to be tricky at best. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] line-number object attribute and the IA2 object attribute spec in general

2010-08-05 Thread James Teh
of representing a document; i.e. Symphony's object per paragraph approach and Gecko's hierarchy of embedded objects approach. ATs need to move away from special casing for every different application and this would not help in that move. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_STATE_PINNED

2010-11-18 Thread James Teh
time that Firefox 4 doesn't have. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_STATE_PINNED

2010-11-23 Thread James Teh
On 24/11/2010 2:01 AM, David Bolter wrote: Event subscription. That's hardly going to make it into a point release. Also, as Mick pointed out, what about IsWinEventHookInstalled()? Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Object Attributes spec needs work

2010-12-01 Thread James Teh
with the idea of checkable table cells. These could just as well be treated as a checkbox within a table cell. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] next changes to IAccessible2

2011-06-20 Thread James Teh
about how the data is accessed and processed by the browser. I'd argue we should be concerned about both, rather than only thinking about the majority use case. As I understand it, IA2 wasn't designed to be in-process only, otherwise there wouldn't be official proxy dlls. Jamie -- James Teh Vice

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] solution for video text descriptions

2011-07-06 Thread James Teh
description causes. Braille could be a nice way of silently accessing the descriptions. However, as I noted before, I think a scrolling transcript is the best way to do this. The user can always disable scrolling if they wish or scroll back to read something they missed. Jamie -- James Teh

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] solution for video text descriptions

2011-07-06 Thread James Teh
, particularly as it seems to make sense. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President, Developer NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Braille devices and live regions

2011-07-07 Thread James Teh
is fairly inefficient. I'm thinking something similar to the proposed relations change. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President, Developer NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing

[Accessibility-ia2] Accessing specific actions without iteration [was Proposal for html5 media]

2011-07-21 Thread James Teh
On 22/07/2011 11:40 AM, Pete Brunet wrote: What do you think of using IAAction::doAction with IA2 specified negative numbers That sounds good to me. I'm guessing IAccessible::doAction will throw E_INVALIDARG if the requested action is not available? Jamie -- James Teh Vice President

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Explicit name

2011-07-25 Thread James Teh
at all. Perhaps this sentence neds to be amended slightly to make it clear that this is only relevant to servers which choose to expose content via IAccessibleText. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President, Developer NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Explicit name

2011-07-31 Thread James Teh
is true if the server prefers the use of the accessible name over the text from IAccessibleText::text. Return values: S_OK -- James Teh Vice President, Developer NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] HTML table summary mapping to IA2

2011-08-08 Thread James Teh
/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Vice President, Developer NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linux

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] [Accessibility] Question re support for HTML 5 in AT-SPI and IA2

2011-08-09 Thread James Teh
another list? It makes more sense to make the original list (and its items) focusable. Pasting would then insert at the position of the focus. Jamie -- James Teh Vice President, Developer NV Access Inc, ABN 61773362390 Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org

[Accessibility-ia2] IA2 intended to be in-process? [was accessibleWithCaret - caretOffset]

2011-09-07 Thread James Teh
in-process, but unless your assertion is true, the addition of new methods like this should be avoided. NVDA uses IA2 both out-of-process and in-process. I think this in-process only principle needs to be clarified, as it has come up several times in various discussions. Jamie -- James Teh Vice

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Finding the most recent target of the most recent activation of an in page link

2012-02-12 Thread James Teh
special than, say, flowsTo or labelledBy? I guess it doesn't fit relations entirely, as it isn't strictly related so much as state information. If that argument is consensus, fair enough. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Getting the document accessible

2012-02-21 Thread James Teh
of the word and therefore document operations (such as fetching the most recent target) don't apply to them. However, perhaps I'm being too literal. I don't really mind either way. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Getting the document accessible

2012-02-22 Thread James Teh
, but it does allow for a bit of flexibility. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IEnumVARIANT vs arrays

2012-03-04 Thread James Teh
/ Ionosphere: WS4G ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IEnumVARIANT vs arrays

2012-03-05 Thread James Teh
with requestedTargets=1. If there are no targets, nTargets would be 0 and the targets array would be empty or NULL. If there is at least one target, nTargets would be 1 and the targets array would contain one entry. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Explicit name

2012-08-14 Thread James Teh
, but if that is the case, grabbed shouldn't be included either. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Getting the document accessible

2012-08-15 Thread James Teh
sure we are solving a real problem before inflating IA2. -Pete On 2/22/12 4:27 PM, James Teh wrote: On 22/02/2012 6:54 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote: The proposed document accessible concept is close to DOM document. ... One example was get_accChild that can return child accessible by uniqueID. True

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] The display object attribute

2012-08-15 Thread James Teh
specific, so probably shouldn't be included in the IA2 spec. Maybe a note is needed to explain that browsers might expose more values, though. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Please review object attribute additions

2012-08-21 Thread James Teh
it'd be better to write The value can be either ascending or descending and indicates the order in which an object's items are sorted. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Please review object attribute additions

2012-08-21 Thread James Teh
on aria-relevant. Perhaps this text might work: True when this live region (i.e. this object and its subtree) should be presented as a whole when relevant changes occur within it. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IAHypertext - remove nHyperlinks, hyperlink?

2012-09-08 Thread James Teh
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] ia2_api_all.idl

2012-09-10 Thread James Teh
) http://www.a11ysoft.com/about/ Ionosphere: WS4G ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IAccessible2_2 inherits from IAccessible

2012-09-10 Thread James Teh
) http://www.a11ysoft.com/about/ Ionosphere: WS4G ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Using IA2 live region / politeness outside of HTML content

2012-09-11 Thread James Teh
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2012-09-25 Thread James Teh
://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2012-10-10 Thread James Teh
-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2012-10-10 Thread James Teh
with EnumVariant at all but we added maxCount 'in' argument. Should we have it here as well? We could do that. The question is whether an AT is ever going to want to retrieve anything other than one or all hyperlinks. I can only come up with use cases for one or all. Jamie -- James Teh Director

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2012-10-10 Thread James Teh
and custom ones would be strings? Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Plea for a new function

2012-11-20 Thread James Teh
___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Plea for a new function

2012-11-26 Thread James Teh
specific characters in a text leaf node. Thanks, Brett -Original Message- From: accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org [mailto:accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Surkov Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:30 PM To: James Teh Cc

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Plea for a new function

2013-02-10 Thread James Teh
to allow it for ancestors, the method should probably also return the relevant ancestor. Alex, can you explain why using IAccessibleHyperlink breaks backwards compatibility as opposed to adding this new method? Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Plea for a new function

2013-02-10 Thread James Teh
IAccessibleHypertext wouldn't return the text leaf nodes. See notes on hack below. pure IAccessibleHyperlink on text leafs is rather a hack than it suites them well. It's a total hack. However, imo, this whole idea is a hack. :) Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Plea for a new function

2013-02-25 Thread James Teh
given that IAccessibleHyper* should really cover this, but at least it's an isolated hack. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-04-21 Thread James Teh
-- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-04-22 Thread James Teh
in or before September last year when you released the initial version of 1.3 for review. Thanks, Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Object attribute format

2013-05-16 Thread James Teh
implicit. It isn't something I considered while writing NVDA's IA2 attributes parser, so it won't handle this without changes. It's probably reasonable that others may not have considered it either. Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-07-09 Thread James Teh
On 9/07/2013 5:13 PM, James Teh wrote: Now, the IDL includes Accessible2.idl before AccessibleRelation.idl, which breaks because IAccessible2 depends on IAccessibleRelation. Alex: I'm curious as to why you didn't hit this issue at Mozilla. Does Mozilla use the official merged IDL or do you

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-07-19 Thread James Teh
On 16/07/2013 11:09 PM, Pete Brunet wrote: The site is now updated: http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/ Hopefully buildapi.sh and ia2_api_all.idl are OK now. The idl is now correct. Thanks! Jamie -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Ph + 61 7 5667 8372 www.nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_TOGGLE_BUTTON is not recommend by spec

2014-02-20 Thread James Teh
=390284 [3] https://developer.gnome.org/atk/unstable/AtkObject.html ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_TOGGLE_BUTTON is not recommend by spec

2014-02-25 Thread James Teh
as IA2_ROLE_TOGGLE_BUTTON IOW if you are ever to use a pressed state then you should change the role to IA2_ROLE_TOGGLE_BUTTON Cheers, Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger Inactive hide details for James Teh ---02/20/2014 05:50:12 PM---Further to this, the IA2 spec recommends using ROLE_SYSTEM_PUSHJames Teh ---02/20/2014 05:50

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] STATE_INDETERMINATE as a means to indicate things like unknowable set size?

2014-09-30 Thread James Teh
control to be checkable. This could include an item which has groupPosition. So, for example, what if there were a tri-state checkable tree item? How would you tell whether it were tri-state or in an indeterminate group? Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IAccessible2 Proxy.DLL for 64 bit browser support

2014-11-03 Thread James Teh
help me to solve this issue. Thanks, Rajesh ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Accessibility-ia2 Digest, Vol 72, Issue 1

2014-11-06 Thread James Teh
you can't register the NVDA proxy dlls. We don't need that functionality, so we don't build it. Unfortunately, that means you'll need to build your own dll. This should be easy enough once you have the IA2 idl, though I don't remember the exact instructions. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-29 Thread James Teh
something obvious here? Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-29 Thread James Teh
. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-29 Thread James Teh
easier, but if you've already made this choice for ATK, changing it there now obviously isn't an option. In that case, this discussion is purely academic for you. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping

2015-06-24 Thread James Teh
___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping

2015-06-24 Thread James Teh
use groupPosition? Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-roledescription

2015-06-28 Thread James Teh
://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#aria-roledescription ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fw: ARIA 1.1 feature status aria-rowspan and aria-colspan

2015-08-05 Thread James Teh
/interface_i_accessible2__2.html#a6cda836322d18e6206e10291b395aa55. Not yet implemented though. One concern with that though is that you can only fetch one attribute at a time if you use it, which is nasty for out-proc usage. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-current thread on ia2

2015-12-01 Thread James Teh
://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] a new method to retrieve the selection

2015-12-06 Thread James Teh
Alex. [1] http://git.linuxfoundation.org/?p=a11y/ia2.git;a=commitdiff;h=85deaf1a1514f0c5e6a59e8c9b6606abfb6e6813 -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org _

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] a new method to retrieve the selection

2015-12-06 Thread James Teh
pretty difficult to come up with interfaces for those that make any real sense aside from their method names. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] a new method to retrieve the selection

2015-12-08 Thread James Teh
in my text. My apologies for the misunderstanding. Jamie On 9/12/2015 9:04 AM, James Teh wrote: But it's *not* the start of the range. And if you're going to say start and end, you may as well rename anchor and active to start and end. :) Jamie On 9/12/2015 5:50 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-current thread on ia2

2015-12-02 Thread James Teh
all states because the server side penalty is far less than the penalty of multiple cross-proc calls. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nv

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-current thread on ia2

2015-12-02 Thread James Teh
sense to go through the trouble of introducing a new state. Just a correction, though: aria-autocomplete does expose IA2_STATE_SUPPORTS_AUTOCOMPLETION; at least, it does in Firefox. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2016-01-03 Thread James Teh
. That certainly is a problem, yes. I guess another solution could be to extend IAccessibleTableCell to provide a way to get to the next cell in a given direction. I *think* that would solve the start/middle gap problem. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2016-01-05 Thread James Teh
with your algorithm. then try column x in that row, and if that fails, navigate to the first cell in that row. We never want to fall back to the first column like that. If a user moves down a row, they expect to move down a row, not down and across (excepting column spans). Jamie -- James Teh

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-02-23 Thread James Teh
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-kbdshortcuts for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-02-23 Thread James Teh
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 Role Landmark

2016-02-23 Thread James Teh
platform, then I guess the justification is the desire to keep our completely different platforms as aligned as possible. And if you accept ROLE_LANDMARK, the next time one of us has to compromise/give in, it will be my turn. --joanie On 02/22/2016 08:37 PM, James Teh wrote: Hi Rich, I don't

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Collections iface? (Re: IA2 Role Landmark)

2016-02-23 Thread James Teh
/02/2016 9:30 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: Hey Jamie, and everyone but the ARIA list which I've just un-CCed as I'm going down a tangent. More below. On 02/23/2016 05:50 PM, James Teh wrote: We don't have a collections interface for IA2, There's not one in ATK either. And the API for what we have

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-02-23 Thread James Teh
To: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org> Cc: IA2 List <accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation.org>; ARIA Working Group <public-a...@w3.org> Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2 Hey Jamie. Yeah, we have a description property which

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 Role Landmark

2016-02-22 Thread James Teh
st Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-02-24 Thread James Teh
the relationship pair, I don't mind. >> >> --joanie >> >>> On 02/23/2016 06:03 PM, James Teh wrote: >>> Sounds great. I'm happy with this mapping. >>> >>> Would this message be included in the concatenated description string >>> fo

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-03-01 Thread James Teh
. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-04-12 Thread James Teh
the impression that my original proposal was not seen as acceptable, and because you suggested a new relation type: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2016-February/002019.html --joanie On 04/11/2016 08:18 PM, James Teh wrote: On 12/04/2016 3:26 AM, Joanmarie Diggs

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-04-11 Thread James Teh
opinion that it is so fundamentally different. I'm happy with the names you proposed. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: ja...@nvaccess.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-03-07 Thread James Teh
it in a separate relationship. That might be a justification for making it separate in ARIA, but not for exposing it separately via accessibility APIs. I haven't seen one undefeated argument yet as to why an AT needs to have it exposed separately from description. Jamie -- James Teh Executive Director, NV

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-04-13 Thread James Teh
ltip when the user mouses over the control. A corollary is that the error message conveys a sense of urgency or obligation -- something needs to be fixed -- whereas the description does not. -- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www

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