Re: [Accessibility-ia2] RELATION_NODE_PARENT_OF

2010-02-25 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Nope. controller for indicates that an object controls another elsewhere in the application. This was derived from the work we did with Sun on Java where we had a problem in the SwingSet application. Here we had a series of checkboxes that controlled the contents of a listbox (types of foods). We

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] RELATION_NODE_PARENT_OF

2010-02-25 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Peter, Well you are getting older Ronnie. :-) Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist Peter Korn

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] hascontext state

2010-04-05 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
would hear has popup, click (space bar) the widget and find no popup (since it is a right click, menu key, shift-f10 that normally invokes the context menu). cheers, David On 05/04/10 11:57 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: I understand the use case ... A button may have a drop down menu

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Deprecation of IA2_STATE_SINGLE_LINE

2010-04-13 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
yet. Thanks, --Andres. From: accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org [ mailto:accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Richard Schwerdtfeger Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 6:32 AM To: Carolyn MacLeod Cc: accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org; accessibility

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] accessibility of HTML5 input controls

2010-04-14 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Jamie, I want to throw in that these form elements will have associated labels (part of the markup) and an autocomplete feature which is quite different than we would normally expect. Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Deprecation of IA2_STATE_SINGLE_LINE

2010-04-16 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: Can we remove/deprecate IA2_STATE_SINGLE_LINE = 0x2000 I don't believe it can. We need it to differentiate between a text field or a text area when we have an element whose role is role_system_text. When it is absent we can assume it is text in a compound

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IAccessibleValue VARIANT types -- not BSTR please

2010-04-28 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Car, Value should not be a string. If there is a text equivalent it can be sent through the object properties. I had asked that the Firefox properties from aria, which allows for a text equivalent, become standard object properties. For example, a slider may have 7 days of the week and the

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] exposing content that is not visible

2010-05-14 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
I was speaking with Shawn Warren of AI Squared and he indicated that he would like to have IA2 be able to hid access to content that is not visible. In particular it appears Shawn was referring to content and componentry that was clipped out due to window size and other windows obscuring the

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] exposing content that is not visible

2010-05-17 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
accurate than accessibility APIs. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group Alexander Surkov surkov.alexan...@gmail.com 05/15/2010 01:35 AM To Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/i...@ibmus cc p...@a11ysoft.com, accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org, accessibility-ia2-boun

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] exposing content that is not visible

2010-05-17 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
To Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/i...@ibmus 05/15/2010 01:35 cc AM p...@a11ysoft.com, accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] exposing content that is not visible

2010-05-17 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
To 05/17/2010 12:35 PM Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/i...@ibmus

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: text attribute range calculation

2010-05-19 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Is that a range containing only embedded characters? Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group Alexander Surkov surkov.alexander

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] screen reader present flag

2010-05-25 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
, What other apps are using this message? How are they using it? === Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: I have to agree with Andres. WM_GETOBJECT is not solely used

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] screen reader present flag

2010-05-25 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
? Thanks, Pete === Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: Any application that would test other native applications would use this. For example: Rational Functional Tester. Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group Inactive hide details for Pete Brunet ---05/25/2010 09:37

[Accessibility-ia2] Accessibility Experts - user agent keyboard navigation (resending)

2010-05-26 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
An important feature of web browser today is the ability to navigate rich content editable areas. This feature is standardized in HTML 5. IBM, Mozilla, and other members of the open community have been working hard on addressing keyboard navigation. Alex Surkov, Mozilla, is creating a document

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Accessibility Experts - user agent keyboard navigation (resending)

2010-05-26 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group wai-xtech-requ...@w3.org wrote on 05/26/2010 09:02:48 AM: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/i...@ibmus Sent by: wai-xtech-requ...@w3.org 05/26/2010 09:02 AM To wai-xt...@w3.org, dev-accessibil...@lists.mozilla.org, Matthew King/ Fishkill/i...@ibmus, Frank

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] a11y support registry API

2010-06-21 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
suggestion below. Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org wrote on 06/21/2010 01:00:38 PM: From: James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org To: accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org Date: 06/21/2010 01:13 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_NOTE

2010-11-18 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
for note I would use the aria definition. Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group From: david bolter david.bol...@gmail.com To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/i...@ibmus Cc: markus.gyll...@gmail.com, accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Gregory J

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_STATE_PINNED

2010-11-23 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
. -- Pete Brunet a11ysoft - Accessibility Architecture and Development (512) 238-6967 (work), (512) 689-4155 (cell) Skype: pete.brunet IM: ptbrunet (AOL, Google), ptbru...@live.com (MSN) http://www.a11ysoft.com/about/ Ionosphere: WS4G Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: Rich Schwerdtfeger

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Object Attributes spec needs work

2010-12-01 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
James, We are going to need a more flexible way of supporting custom components for the Web. Properties and states need to be discoverable and processable - and so do custom roles. I think roles will end up becoming identifiers for common design patterns. This will part of the work in ARIA 2.0.

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Object Attributes spec needs work

2010-12-01 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
We also need to start collecting new common design patterns on the Web and ensure we are moving in the right direction on the infrastructure. Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group From: David Bolter david.bol...@gmail.com To: James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org Cc:

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] next changes to IAccessible2

2011-06-20 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation.org Date: 06/18/2011 01:12 AM Subject:Re: [Accessibility-ia2] next changes to IAccessible2 Sent by:accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org On 17/06/2011 10:49 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: Well if you wanted to [have a way to fetch

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] next changes to IAccessible2

2011-06-22 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
] next changes to IAccessible2 Sent by: accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org On 6/22/2011 8:27 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: Pete, I am looking at accessibleDocument. Should we not do more than that for a document interface? Should we also have features to collect and access

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] next changes to IAccessible2

2011-06-28 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
So, we are discussing making canvas accessible. Currently accessible objects take bounding rectangles yet drawing objects can be more complex. Should we introduce a drawing path to the API vs doing a best fit to a rectangle? Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group From:

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] How is MSAA+IA2 used for live regions

2011-07-08 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Hi Pete, Pleas look at the ARIA implementation guide: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_events Section 5.8.2 will show the events fired for document changes within a live region aria-live is not a state. It is a property so you need only look at the property API mapping.

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] HTML table summary mapping to IA2

2011-08-31 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Hi Alex, Summary is the equivalent of a text description that can be mapped to accDescription. The summary is not visible to sighted users. So, it behaves the same way as a hidden aria-descibedby. We should start being consistent in the way that we provide information. Captions are visible

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] HTML table summary mapping to IA2

2011-09-02 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: That works for me. So if summary is null or an empty string then an AT should look to the describedby relationship. So, what will you do with caption? Will you deprecate it? Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Please review these three proposals

2012-02-24 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Hi Pete, What is the point of saying (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/IA2_1.3#Object_attribute): Return hypertext accessible in subtree of the accessible and caret * offset within it. Aren't you just asking for the accessible in the subtree with a caret in it? I am not following the

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2012-09-25 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Copy that. I just got back from vacation and am slammed. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger From: James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org To: IAccessible2 mailing list accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Date: 09/25/2012 02:14 AM Subject:Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Hi Pete, The reason for the editing functions was to allow a voice reco solution to select text, edit it, and perform clipboard operations for the mobility impaired. It is additional work to have a voice reco solution have to go through the additional work of doing the additional keyboard

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Pete, Is there a plan to update AccProbe for the new interfaces? Alex: I am concerned about FF implementing this stuff in the middle of Candidate Recommendation phase. That would set everything back and there are already more bugs than I would like to see in FF 21 which need to be addressed.

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
That creates a rather significant problem. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger From: Pete Brunet p...@a11ysoft.com To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, Cc: IA2 List Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org, accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Alexander

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
if a project comes along that needs clipboard functionality and provides resource to drive the spec toward a well thought out definition of the clipboard methods. Pete On 2/4/13 8:51 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: Hi Pete, The reason for the editing functions was to allow a voice

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Whe are relations deprecated? They are used extensively in both FF, Chrome, and Symphony. Rich Sent from my iPad On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Pete Brunet p...@a11ysoft.com wrote: On 10/10/12 1:29 AM, James Teh wrote: Hi all, Sorry for taking so long. Here is my feedback:

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
It appears the relations were moved to the new ia22 interface. Is that why you are deprecating the relations interface? Sent from my iPad On Feb 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger sch...@us.ibm.com wrote: Whe are relations deprecated? They are used extensively in both FF, Chrome

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
...@a11ysoft.com wrote: On 2/4/13 4:56 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: Did you check with Nuance? What appends if replacetext is removed? If you have a contact at Nuance please ask them to join the list. Only the clipboard methods are deprecated, which bascially means don't use the cut

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IAccessibleTable2::caption/summary deprecation notes need correcting

2013-10-12 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Thanks Pete. Sent from my iPad On Oct 12, 2013, at 12:43 AM, Pete Brunet p...@a11ysoft.com wrote: The IAccessibleTable2 spec has an error. The deprecation note on the caption method indicates that a describedBy relation should be used and the deprecation note on the summary method

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2_ROLE_TOGGLE_BUTTON is not recommend by spec

2014-02-25 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Jamie, In ARIA you apply aria-pressed=true or aria-pressed=false it will become a toggle button. From the implementation guide should we say something about the pressed state. IAccessible2: If aria-pressed is not undefined, it SHOULD be exposed as IA2_ROLE_TOGGLE_BUTTON IOW if you are ever to

[Accessibility-ia2] IAccessible2

2014-07-08 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Hi Pete, Janina, As you may know ARIA 1.1 will require some modifications to platform accessibility APIs. Alex Surkov, from Mozilla, has agreed to take over Pete's position in the Linux Foundation to make the necessary changes, as well as other enhancements, required for IA2 implementers. He

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IAccessible2

2014-07-08 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Super. Alex is gong to be great. Thank you for all your wonderful work on IA2 Pete! Rich Schwerdtfeger From: Pete Brunet p...@a11ysoft.com To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS Cc: IAccessible2 mailing list accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org Date: 07

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IAccessible2 Proxy.DLL for 64 bit browser support

2014-11-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
We are also building a 64-bit proxy dll. I can look at open sourcing it although not in the next month as I have travel. Rich Schwerdtfeger From: James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org To: accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org Date: 11/03/2014 06:38 PM Subject:Re:

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-27 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
I want to also consider HTML5.1 native host language semantics. If we have an HTML5 checkbox I would think that the native placeholder attribute would win, over aria-placeholder, as that text would be visible. Do you agree Steve? Rich Schwerdtfeger From: Joanmarie Diggs

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-04-27 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Joseph, fyi: assuming Joanie and Alex agree on an object attribute, see below. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger From: Steve Faulkner faulkner.st...@gmail.com To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS Cc: Joanmarie Diggs jdi...@igalia.com, IAccessible2 mailing list

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping

2015-05-01 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
The problem with the name computation is that: If you use it to compute a name only and then type over it you lose the hint. ... e.g. a placeholder value of MMDDYY. The AT can always ask for the placeholder value. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger From: Alexander Surkov surkov.alexan...@gmail.com

[Accessibility-ia2] Fw: ARIA 1.1 feature status aria-rowspan and aria-colspan

2015-07-28 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
like the issue is that we are fighting with trying to compute the results vs. what the author is putting in. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger - Forwarded by Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM on 07/28/2015 09:31 AM - From: Alexander Surkov surkov.alexan...@gmail.com To: Richard Schwerdtfeger

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fw: ARIA 1.1 feature status aria-rowspan and aria-colspan

2015-07-29 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
. Jamie suggested to use object attributes which sounds reasonable. Alex. On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger sch...@us.ibm.com wrote: I am continuing the discussion on the list. It sounds like we have two models - contiguous rows/columns vs. author specified. Should

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-errormessage

2015-08-11 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
if it's the one defined by aria-errormessage (exposed via object attribute). --joanie On 08/11/2015 12:48 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: yes. We need it for ATK/ATSPI also. Rich Schwerdtfeger Inactive hide details for Alexander Surkov ---08/11/2015 11:34:44 AM---Hi. It looks like we need

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-roledescription

2015-07-16 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Alex, I think this could be used for this purpose. It would require that we load up the extended role (IA2 role) first. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger From: Alexander Surkov surkov.alexan...@gmail.com To: accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org

[Accessibility-ia2] aria-current thread on ia2

2015-12-01 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2015-September/001939.html Alex, why would you not want the active state on non-widgets? For example, if you have a list of links in a navigation landmark section you do not want to mix focus with active. This is because what is

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2016-01-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
to navigate there. We can add a parameter that states to navigate to the first non-empty cell to the ... or whatever algorithm we choose. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger From: Dominic Mazzoni <dmazz...@google.com> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, James Teh <ja...@nva

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2016-01-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Would it not be better to just navigate to a given row and column index? Why limit it to just the cell in a direction? Rich Schwerdtfeger From: James Teh To: Dominic Mazzoni , IAccessible2 mailing list

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2015-12-31 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
components make use of a DOM tree but it is separate. So, regarding API mappings you want to have the ATs control the browser (move focus and have the browser load more content)? Rich Schwerdtfeger From: Dominic Mazzoni <dmazz...@google.com> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IB

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2015-12-31 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Hi Dominic, We can look at adding this work as part of ARIA 2.0 and the common accessibility api work for browsers. The need for this goes beyond screen readers. Alternative input solutions will need this too. I am trying to wrap ARIA 1.1 up on time so that we can do all the long-needed

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-02-24 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Error messages may have additional content in there that needs greater semantic structure. For example, what if the error message had a link to a online help area about the topic. Converting it to a string would not work. Rich > On Feb 23, 2016, at 5:20 PM, Joanmarie Diggs

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Mapping of aria-errormessage for ATK/AT-SPI2 and IA2

2016-02-24 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
We want to separate out errors from help information. aria-errormessage only takes an IDREF. > On Feb 24, 2016, at 5:14 PM, James Teh wrote: > > I thought aria-describedby could refer to multiple nodes. As such, I don't > follow why authors were "stuck" when they wanted

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-details and aria-errormessage mapping

2016-08-09 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
org>, James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org>, Joanmarie Diggs <jdi...@igalia.com>, Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUSCc:Subject: aria-details and aria-errormessage mappingDate: Tue, Aug 9, 2016 2:12 PM  Hi.ARIA 1.1 got two relation-like attributes: aria-details [1] and aria-errormessage [2], used

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-details and aria-errormessage mapping

2016-08-18 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
. Object attributes are an option.   Rich   Rich Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexan...@gmail.com>To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUSCc: "accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org" <accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-details and aria-errormessage mapping

2016-08-21 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org>To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUSCc: accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org, jdi...@igalia.com, surkov.alexan...@gmail.comSubject: Re: aria-details and aria-errormessage mappingDate: Sun, Aug 21, 2016 7

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-details and aria-errormessage mapping

2016-08-19 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
From: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org>To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, surkov.alexan...@gmail.comCc: accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org, jdi...@igalia.comSubject: Re: aria-details and aria-errormessage mappingDate: Thu, Aug 18, 2016 9:45 PM  Hi.  I've already stated my view on t

[Accessibility-ia2] Agreement on concatenation of aria-describedby and aria-errormessage relationships

2016-09-06 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
  The ARIA working group is against concatenating the description and relationship strings. I will try to summarize:   Specifically, concatenation by browsers could:   Defeat the purposes of aria-errormessage. The aria-errormessage relationship is designed to ensure assistive technology

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Bitmask for rare accessibility attributes

2016-09-06 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
That makes sense to me.  Rich Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: Dominic Mazzoni via Accessibility-ia2 Sent by: accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.orgTo: accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation.orgCc:Subject:

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Reverse relationships

2016-09-06 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
    - Original message -From: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org>To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, surkov.alexan...@gmail.com, ble...@freedomscientific.com, jdi...@igalia.comCc: accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation.orgSubject: Re: Reverse relationshipsDate: Tue, Sep 6, 2016 7:34 PM  As I

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Agreement on concatenation of aria-describedby and aria-errormessage relationships

2016-09-06 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
I think Dominic's suggestion on an interface tester with bit flags works well.   Rich   Rich Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org>To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, surkov.alexan...@gmail.com, ble...@freedomscientific.com, jdi...@igalia

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Form role mapping

2016-09-06 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
d HTML 5.2 level browsers support the IA2_ROLE_LANDMARK for all landmarks and use the xml-roles object attribute to get the landmark type, ... in this case "form".   Rich   Rich Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org>To: Richard Schw

[Accessibility-ia2] Reverse relationships

2016-09-06 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
We need agreement:   Should the error message and details relationships have reverse mappings?   Rich   Rich Schwerdtfeger ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Reverse relationships

2016-09-07 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
<ja...@nvaccess.org>To: Dominic Mazzoni <dmazz...@google.com>, Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUSCc: accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation.orgSubject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Reverse relationshipsDate: Wed, Sep 7, 2016 12:26 AM  That's fair. The only problem is that if they'r

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Agreement on concatenation of aria-describedby and aria-errormessage relationships

2016-09-08 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
xan...@gmail.com>To: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org>Cc: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, IAccessible2 mailing list <accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation.org>, Brett Lewis <ble...@freedomscientific.com>, Joanmarie Diggs <jdi...@igalia.com>, Dominic Mazzoni &l

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 Role Landmark

2016-08-29 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Jamie, Alex,   There is far too much resistance to concatenating the description with the error message. It will never carry with the working group. I am sorry. Right now we are holding up ARIA in HTML in ARIA.   Can we agree:   1. For the Firefox mapping of the form element, and ARIA 1.1 form

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 IDL

2016-09-12 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Could you add it in for error message so that AT vendors can start work on it sooner this week? Rich > On Sep 12, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Alexander Surkov > wrote: > > Hi, Rich. > > I didn't updated yet IDL for details and errormessage. I wanted to make it on > this

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 IDL

2016-09-12 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Thank you. It was my understanding that aria-details would not have a reverse relationship.   Regards, Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: Alexander Surkov Sent by: accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.orgTo: Rich Schwerdtfeger

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-15 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Faulkner <faulkner.st...@gmail.com>To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUSCc: Anne van Kesteren <ann...@annevk.nl>, IAccessible2 mailing list <accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation.org>, Amelia Bellamy-Royds <amelia.bellamy.ro...@gmail.com>, "asur...@mozilla.com&q

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Fwd: figure role backgrounds

2016-09-15 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
@gmail.com>Cc: Rich Schwerdtfeger <richsch...@gmail.com>, Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexan...@gmail.com>, Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, IAccessible2 mailing list <accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation.org>, Alexander Surkov <asur...@mozilla.com>, Marcos Cacere

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Reverse relationships

2016-09-26 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Hi Janina,    I believe you are still the a11y director at the LF? Can you see any reason why IA2 could not be moved to github?   Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: Alexander Surkov Sent by:

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Reverse relationships

2016-09-19 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
I think IA2 should be moved to github as well. Rich Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: James Teh Sent by: accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.orgTo: Alexander Surkov Cc: IAccessible2 mailing list

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Reverse relationships

2016-09-07 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
-From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexan...@gmail.com>To: Brett Lewis <ble...@vfo-group.com>Cc: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, "ja...@nvaccess.org" <ja...@nvaccess.org>, "jdi...@igalia.com" <jdi...@igalia.com>, "accessibility-...@lists.lin

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Agreement on concatenation of aria-describedby and aria-errormessage relationships

2016-09-07 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Yes it may provide alternative content as well.   Rich Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexan...@gmail.com>To: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org>Cc: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, IAccessible2 mailing list <accessibility-

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Form role mapping

2016-09-07 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
en reader.  Good point. I will switch back to IA2_ROLE_FORM for forms. We still need IA2_ROLE_LANDMARK for the other land marks.   Rich     Rich Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexan...@gmail.com>To: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org>Cc: Richard

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-details and aria-errormessage mapping [Issue-1044]

2016-08-25 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
message -From: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBMTo: surkov.alexan...@gmail.comCc: accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org, ja...@nvaccess.org, jdi...@igalia.comSubject: Re: aria-details and aria-errormessage mappingDate: Tue, Aug 23, 2016 3:21 PM  Alex,   You can't expose aria-details

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-details and aria-errormessage mapping

2016-08-24 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
-From: Joanmarie Diggs <jdi...@igalia.com>To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUSCc: ja...@nvaccess.org, accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org, surkov.alexan...@gmail.comSubject: Re: aria-details and aria-errormessage mappingDate: Wed, Aug 24, 2016 9:52 AM  Hey Rich.On matters w

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-details and aria-errormessage mapping

2016-08-24 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
/1044   I have included Joseph on CC so that he is aware of the name and description issue. Rich Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUSSent by: accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.orgTo: jdi...@igalia.comCc: accessibility-ia2

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-details and aria-errormessage mapping

2016-08-24 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
on ATVs in terms of the user experience.   Rich   Rich Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: Joanmarie Diggs <jdi...@igalia.com>To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUSCc: accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org, cl...@alum.mit.eduSubject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-d

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Digital Publishing ARIA module

2016-09-28 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
. I worry that this involves a potential name computation which currently does not map to a special property. I would really like to avoid that. That potentially is a lot of spec. work.   Cheers, Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger     - Original message -From: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUSSent