Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Impress : Slide show mode with Orca seems not working

2016-07-22 Thread Alex ARNAUD

Le 21/07/2016 à 14:04, Sophie a écrit :

Hi Alex,

Hi Sophie

Le 20/07/2016 à 11:57, Alex ARNAUD a écrit :

sDear LibreOffice and Orca folks,

I'm trying to use the slide show mode of LibreOffice Impress with some
difficulties. I'm able to activate it but Orca stays silent at
start/exit of the mode and when I switch between slides with the left or
right arrow.

Did you search for an existing bug on this and/or did you fill a bug?
I've found no bugs about that but I wait the answer of  AT-SPI2 expert 
to know if the problem is LibreOffice or Orca.


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Hypra - "Humanizing technology"


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RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Impress : Slide show mode with Orca seems not working

2016-07-21 Thread Alex Midence
Hi, Alex,

I have never been able to use the slideshow mode effectively.  I always had to 
export the slide shows to html and read it with a browser.  Impress is very 
difficult to use with Orca and has been this way since forever.  You sound like 
you may have a better idea of why it doesn't work well than most people I've 
encountered who run against this difficulty.  Looks like filing a bug is the 
way to go although I've been using some form of Open Office/Libreoffice since 
2010 and the problem was well-known and long-standing even six years ago.  I 
would be flabbergasted to find out that absolutely no one who works with its 
accessibility was aware of the issue and that a bug hadn't been already filed 
somewhere.  This is not new, folks.

Alex M


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From: Sophie [mailto:gautier.sop...@gmail.com] 
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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Impress : Slide show mode 
with Orca seems not working

Hi Alex,
Le 20/07/2016 à 11:57, Alex ARNAUD a écrit :
> Dear LibreOffice and Orca folks,
> 
> I'm trying to use the slide show mode of LibreOffice Impress with some 
> difficulties. I'm able to activate it but Orca stays silent at 
> start/exit of the mode and when I switch between slides with the left 
> or right arrow.

Did you search for an existing bug on this and/or did you fill a bug?
> 
> I've investigated a little bit on Accerciser and It seems that 
> LibreOffice sends information but no event "page change" and maybe a 
> wrong accessibility tree for slide show mode.
> Could someone explain what me  LibreOffice does wrong on the slide 
> show mode ?
> 
> When we switch between pages, what do you want to be announced by Orca ?

Are you willing to fix the bug? in that case, the best list to discuss about 
Orca's feedback should be UX/design list.

Cheers
Sophie

It's up to you to help
> 
> Best regards.
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Impress : Slide show mode with Orca seems not working

2016-07-21 Thread Sophie
Hi Alex,
Le 20/07/2016 à 11:57, Alex ARNAUD a écrit :
> Dear LibreOffice and Orca folks,
> 
> I'm trying to use the slide show mode of LibreOffice Impress with some
> difficulties. I'm able to activate it but Orca stays silent at
> start/exit of the mode and when I switch between slides with the left or
> right arrow.

Did you search for an existing bug on this and/or did you fill a bug?
> 
> I've investigated a little bit on Accerciser and It seems that
> LibreOffice sends information but no event "page change" and maybe a
> wrong accessibility tree for slide show mode.
> Could someone explain what me  LibreOffice does wrong on the slide show
> mode ?
> 
> When we switch between pages, what do you want to be announced by Orca ?

Are you willing to fix the bug? in that case, the best list to discuss
about Orca's feedback should be UX/design list.

Cheers
Sophie

It's up to you to help
> 
> Best regards.
> 


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IRC: sophi
Release coordinator
The Document Foundation

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