Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

Penalising the blind student by putting restrictions on the scribe is hugely unfair. If people are abusing the facility, it is up to the system to catch them and bring them to book. As it is, the blind person is disadvantaged and if he has to run around toorganise the documentation and meet the

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Second Yajesh and Gupta. On 12/14/17, Avee Gupta wrote: > I agree with the opinion of not imposing any restrictions on scribe > guidelines but as far as my knowledge the cut of's of various > examinations like IBPS and SBI officer as well as clerical have multi > folded

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Dear Kanchan mam, Still you've 11 minutes for the meeting to start. Please, ask the ministry to dig in the archive of the complaints received by the CCPD Office over the years regarding bad scribes provided by SSC/CBSE/UGC/UPSC. The situation at states' level is even worse. There are a number of

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I support Avinash's and Dinesh's views. Strict supervision and if necessary, c c t v recording will reduce the malpractice to a great extense. Renuka. On 12/15/17, Srinivasu Chakravarthula wrote: > Kanchan, > I think what Dinesh is referring is CCTV recording. Now-a-days

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Kanchan, I think what Dinesh is referring is CCTV recording. Now-a-days use of CCTV is quite common everywhere and even may already exist in exam centres. I don't think he is talking about video shoot or something like that. Best, Vasu Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter:

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I agree with the opinion of not imposing any restrictions on scribe guidelines but as far as my knowledge the cut of's of various examinations like IBPS and SBI officer as well as clerical have multi folded in these 4 years . Since 2014 the cut off has almost doubled instead of the rise in level

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I believe invigilation should be more strict and strengthened rather than putting restrictions. an examiner should be seeted in front of the candidate similar to railway examinations where a separate examiner was there in frunt of VI candidate and was seeing the activities. it is more fair and

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I think keeping one grade lower may work in school and university examination if taking scribe from the same stream, but this formula shouldn't be fixed for competetive examination. As most of the competetive examination have the eligibility being graduate, as happens in most of the state and all

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OK now I am closing. If any one wants to get in touch please call on +919022029126. Don't call between 7 am and 9.30am as I will be on the flight. Meeting at 11am. K -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Jain Sent: 14

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Turab, These guidelines are supposed to apply all over India and for every exam but I am told today that I I T has its own rules for scribes for the entrance exams and they are not relenting. In this matter partially the courts seem to have gone against us. I don't have the judgement but I

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How about this : 3. Scribes chosen by Candidate a. In case the candidate avails the services of his/her own scribe/writer, the scribe/writer should be one grade junior in academic qualification than the candidate if from the same stream. However, this condition shall not apply if the

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I do not take the facility of scribe but people who use the facility have no chocie but to take scribes provided by the institute which are mostly teaching associates (who work with faculty members in teaching and research) and in some cases doctoral students. Looking at the comments from

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GoodAbichal. Now we come to the truth. I will still defend the guidelines however if I have to give in then what limited restriction should I accept. I think one year lower is liveable. What do others think. Kanchan -Original Message- From: AccessIndia

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I might be castigated for saying this, but still I will say it as it is the truth. There needs to be some reasonable restrictions on scribes as I myself have seen people of my own community blatantly misusing the provisions put in place for helping them. Those places where computer operations are

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So Amit who did you use as your scribe for the first yearof the MBA course? What else can I give to salvage this situation. See the comments of the authorities including NIVH in my other emails -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf

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At our institute we were looking at video recording as a method of vigilance not an alternate to written answers. But then question was raised about quality of audio which brought to have audio recording also and then the whole debate came up On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Kanchan Pamnani

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One batch lower would be a harsh condition I would say. Take IIMs as an example, MBA is for two years, so when I enter in the first year, I will have no junior to help me out, seniors is out of question, so there is effectively no pool for me to choose a scrieb and I have to depend on the

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Dinesh and Amit Are we looking at video recording a. instead of the written answers or b. video recording of the room in which the exam takes place as a method of supervision. Please clarify. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On

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As far as my expeirnce goes, video and audio recording may not be feasable. When I proposed the same in my institute, my idea was sut doewn based on the following 1. The cost may be too high as each candidate will require to have a seperate recording required both for audio and video 2. Person

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Lets get the facts straight. 1. These guidelines are wonderful. 2. There has been a lot of misuse by many candidates. 3. Many of the candidates have complained to the Authorities. 4. We as the sector should have complained about it and disciplined our juniors I have heard private grumblings

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Dinesh I am not questioning you for the sake of arguing but for strengthening my stand tomorrow.Is video recording feasible for exams in schools colleges and competitive exams in various classrooms. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

Lets get the facts straight. 1. These guidelines are wonderful. 2. There has been a lot of misuse by many candidates. 3. Many of the candidates have complained to the Authorities. 4. We as the sector should have complained about it and disciplined our juniors I have heard private grumblings

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I guess we may not have to worry about all these conditions if video recording of the session could be made mandatory. Video recording should be submitted so that anytime any authority could verify if any cheating happened. for any -Original Message- From: AccessIndia

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See the opinion of some stake holders. I had started answering these but got foxed with NIVH -our apex body. Now what to do friends when we have to face ourselves. 1. SSC Candidate allowed to bring their own scribe can misuse this facility which could adversely impact the transparency and

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I totally agree with Avinash. In an ideal isituation, strict vigilance is the solution rather than restrictions and cheating even happens by people not using scribes. But then we are in asituation where the ideal situation is in danger. I think instead of restrictions, disclosure could be an

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The court doesn't take notice of the incidents those occur because of bad scribe or completely worthless scribes provided by exam centres, and also court doesn't deliberate upon outlandish scribe guidelines set by public authorities like so called public service commissions of the states! Yes,

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Dear Kanchan, I strongly disagree on putting any restrictions on scribes. It would be like raising the kerbs on the kerb ramps because some biker users misuse the pedestrian sidewalks. This is an issue of enforcement. The mechanism of invigilation need to be made foolproof. Also there has to be

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there should be adequate invigilation along with thorough scrutiny of the scribe. On 12/14/17, Kotian, H P wrote: > Hi > I too second it fully. Exam malpractises should be dealt in that fashion and > for it genuine requirements of visually disabled persons should not be >

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Avinash Agree with you completely. However someone has gone to the Bombay High Court and asked for ban of private scribes. Luckily court has not agreed but has put the onus on the Expert Committeee which is meeting tomorrow. Will try and send you comments of NIVH to understand how we are going

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Avinash Agree with you completely. However someone has gone to the Bombay High Court and asked for ban of private scribes. Luckily court has not agreed but has put the onus on the Expert Committeee which is meeting tomorrow. Will try and send you comments of NIVH to understand how we are going

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Avinash Agree with you completely. However someone has gone to the Bombay High Court and asked for ban of private scribes. Luckily court has not agreed but has put the onus on the Expert Committeee which is meeting tomorrow. Will try and send you comments of NIVH to understand how we are going

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Hi I too second it fully. Exam malpractises should be dealt in that fashion and for it genuine requirements of visually disabled persons should not be sacrificed. Very recently I heard of an incident of a very rich fellow's son wrote an exam using scribe under the garb of some reading

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Dear Kanchan Ma'am, Apologies for not contributing much to the precise question as I do not have the OM at hand. My only request is that whatever the outcome of the meeting, please ensure that the guidelines formulated are uniform for all exams having overriding effect over all unique and stupid

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No limitations should be imposed on scribes. The only remedy to check the mal-practices is strict vigilance. Just think how non-scribe user examinees are not allowed to cheat cause the strict enforcement mechanisms. the limitation such as Educational qualification is an absurd and the government

[AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

Referring to OM of 26th Feb 2013 What limitations can we allow on scribes This is critical because tomorrow there is a meeting. Someone has gone to the Bombay High Court and asked that private scribes be banned. Luckily the court has not agreed with this decision. However we will have