Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread avinash shahi
Rahul, we don't know about your company and to what extent they provide you reasonable accommodation. The narrative you've shared with us sounds an ego clash. And he won it. You said he apologized and you've no qualms and he helped you also. Isn't it? Why would any scenior come to any junior's

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread Dinesh Kaushal
As I mentioned, the senior was not called for reading the document; they were called for picking out which document had to be notarized. That is even more simpler! But I would assume that I don't know your situation exactly, but as much as I know, in such a situation I would have used KNFB

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread Preeti Monga
Completely agree that one should go to someone if one needs help from him/her, anywhere. Then, like me if mobility is your problem, we have humans around and we can ask anyone to take us to who so ever we need to go to for help! Help is never a problem, but when we need help, we need to be humble

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread Dinesh Kaushal
In that case, instead of sending the office boy, you could visit him and explain as Pranav highlighted. I am sorry I don't agree with mobility restriction argument due to disability. Many of us can navigate around for our office, shopping, and even for movies, then mobility within office should

[AI] Problem with NVDA with Firefox

2018-01-05 Thread Chandrashekhar Kulkarni
Dear List Members, I face a very strange problem with NVDA when using firefox. When I go to gmail and select my account NVDA says menu and displays options like back, forward, inspect element and does not allow me to type password. I can do the job well with Jaws. However if I open gmail with

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread George Abraham
Two things that have served me well over the years have been a smile and a willingness take on responsibility. Demanding help and assistance does not get you very far. A smile and a request is what works. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread pranav.lal
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Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Thank you, Shireen. I appreciate your perspective. I also agree that it would be best for me to deal with these issues with a greater sense of equanimity, which is part of the reason why I created this thread. I am generally thick-skinned on most issues, but issues of this kind always hit a raw

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread Shireen Irani
Rahul, Are you really comparing your senior talking to u condescendingly, to sexual harassment? or any kind of work-place harassment? Whatever be the details of your interaction with the guy, this is clearly only a case of some ego clash where he said something to u, just 1 line, in a tone

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Shirin, thank you for offering a more nuanced perspective. However, to your point that this is just the way it is and one should get on with it. This same argument was made for decades to say that women should tolerate sexual harassment at the workplace because men will be men and raising their

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread Rahul Bajaj
I am saddened to see that ableism and blatantly unacceptable behaviour is being sought to be normalized in this way. If a woman asks her superior at 12 in the night to drop her home on a dangerous street, is the employer not obligated to do this? If employer reacts like mine did, will people

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Thank you, Dinesh and Shirin. Dinesh, with great respect, I do wish you had read my mail more closely before arriving at a conclusion. As I mentioned, the senior was not called for reading the document; they were called for picking out which document had to be notarized. There were essentially

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread Shireen Irani
Hi Rahul, Here are my 2 bits of wisdom! ;-) yes, sadly this is more of a favour than an obligation, and asking the office boy to summon him was perhaps not the best way to do this, given his seniority which he seems to be constantly aware of, from the way u describe him. If u just have to seek

Re: [AI] In need of a braille wall calendar

2018-01-05 Thread Nirmal Verma
We received braille calendaes along with reliance dristi magazine. Its really nice calendar. Please ask NAB mumbai if they have one. Nirmal On Jan 5, 2018 7:06 PM, "Avichal Bhatnagar" wrote: > Hello list members, I want to know about any organization in India > which

[AI] In need of a braille wall calendar

2018-01-05 Thread Avichal Bhatnagar
Hello list members, I want to know about any organization in India which sells braille wall calendars. I am looking for one, but on googling about it, I am able to locate such calendars only on websites of foreign organizations. Any help in this regard would be highly appreciated. Thanks, Avichal

[AI] Queery about braille diary/notebook

2018-01-05 Thread Avichal Bhatnagar
Hello list members, I am looking for a braille diary/notebook/register which can be easily used in braille slate for writing short notes. If there's any organization which sells such a thing in India, please provide me the contact details. Thanks, Avichal -- Avichal bhatnagar The list has now

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Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread Dinesh Kaushal
Well, reasonable accommodation means that you are provided tools to help read documents, but asking people to read out the documents for you may not qualify as reasonable accommodations, on top of this, calling someone to your desk for this can rubbed them the wrong way. I wonder why you are not

[AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

2018-01-05 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Hi Everyone, I hope this message finds you well. At my workplace, which is a law firm, I recently confronted a situation which I think I could have dealt with in a more graceful way. One of my superiors, who is not the nicest person to put it mildly, displayed blatant ableism and unacceptable

Re: [AI] Helping people with disabilities -Career /Job coach

2018-01-05 Thread sibi mohamed
Its a great thing Mam..thank you for valuable thought.. Regards Siby On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:20 AM, Kartik Sawhney wrote: > Hi Sowmya, > > My name is Kartik, and I am a part of a group called I-Stem which is a > group of blind and visually impaired math and science

Re: [AI] Cursor navigation in NVDA : quick navigation command.

2018-01-05 Thread Dinesh Kaushal
There are 3 main cursor navigation modes in NVDA. Regular cursor navigation can be done with arrow keys along with various modification keys such as control and shift. These are actually not NVDA commands but these are standard windows commands. Review cursor navigation: this helps to read

Re: [AI] Cursor navigation in NVDA : quick navigation command.

2018-01-05 Thread Chandrashekhar Kulkarni
Dear friend, Will you please forward the attachment regarding keyboard commands in NVDA with the task they perform to my email ID as well? I will be really grateful. my ID is. kulkarni.chandr...@gmail.com Awaiting your kind assistance, Sincerely, C. B. Kullkarni On 04/01/2018, rehan