Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the 'divyang'

2016-01-01 Thread S R Mittal
Very much true sir. Mittal -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of P. Subramani Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:14 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI]My

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2016-01-01 Thread Vedprakash
There may be objections from one or the other quarter with the terms used to denote a person with disabilities. We are wasting our skills in criticising the term divyang. We should rather try to present an alternative which is the least objectionable and the most acceptable. The term Viklang,

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2016-01-01 Thread P. Subramani
this time, you put the correct sportlight E-Mail: subramani6...@gmail.com Mob: 9738150192 Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16 - Original Message - From: "avinash shahi" To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2016-01-01 Thread P. Subramani
I do respect your views and also the fight/campaign against the faulty rpd bill, pm merely suggested a word which after wider consultations/discussions could be accpted/rejected by the views of the disableds/activitists, etc., my concern is the posting give an impression that modi is

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2016-01-01 Thread avinash shahi
I kno that our Prime Minister is not a disability rights activist or a disability scholar. And he is not well read about the correctness of the disability terminology. What he suggested is a name hold by many individuals in India. If one googles, one could find names Divyang Chaudhary, Divyang

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2016-01-01 Thread George Abraham
The problem as Rajesh put it, the words from the PM is an imposition. Govt officials do not have the backbone to stand up and say that they disagree. If the PM has said that PWDs are to be called Diviang then the Govt officials will blindly follow (no pun intended). The PM is not a subject

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2016-01-01 Thread avinash shahi
How do we make it crystal clear that our fight is not with the Modi as a person. However his suggestion of 'divyang' as the PM of a largely uneducated country needs to be taken seriously. Why some of us always think that the disability is apolitical subject. Its very much political and we should

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-31 Thread P. Subramani
well avinash, we must fight with the govt to get these things done rather than asking the govt as to why you haven't done all these. There is no reason for suddenly taking a hardline against the after BJP coming to power. Where were you people and others while the earlier govt was ruling?

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread Anirban Mukherjee
Dear Friend, we should focus on both the aspects because these terminologies reflect a certain mindset which perpetuate exclusion. according to me, what i want and what i want myself to be called is of paramount importance. sincerely, Anirban Mukherjee On 12/29/15, Avichal Bhatnagar

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread Tilakprasad Joshi
Shal we start a petition on this? Warm Regards, Tilak. On 12/29/15, Anirban Mukherjee wrote: > Dear Friend, > > we should focus on both the aspects because these terminologies > reflect a certain mindset which perpetuate exclusion. according to me, > what i want and

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread Ashik
Mr Modi is a man of words. However, as for the implementation, his record is very poor. In Gujarat, he is responsible for preventing the entry of the VI into the teachership in the primary school. So, please, do not get trapped by his words. Sorry if my comment sounds political to you. However,

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Oh, there it's kejriwal and not modi. Don't hold center responsible, even if a dog barks in the states governed by non-NDA, na? -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rajesh H Mehta Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:29 AM

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread George Abraham
Change in terminology would cost the country big money too! Besides, it is not about terms it is about mindset. If nomenclature could bring about change, life would have not been such a struggle. It is about attitude! The term Deviang has a patronising shade to it. -Original

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
true, The present government is long on sloganeering and short on actions. I have come to expect some new slogan daily... Smile. Anyway, why couldn't they have excluded Divyangs while withdrawing LPG subsidy from persons earning more than ten lakh rupees?! -Original Message- From:

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread Rajesh H Mehta
For that matter even in currant alternative car arrangement of Delhi also there is no leave for Divyangs. From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled."

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread Poonam
Dear friends, To those who prefer to sound holier than thou, let me say this: yes, terminology does have relevance. It has relevance to the extent that it is reflective of a certain mindset; it also has relevance and it impacts and affects our distinct identity as a group. Talking about

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread Viraj Kafle
It is not just a spontaneous Man Ki Baat.All this is coming along with the weakening of the prospects of a genuine and rights-based disability legislation. It is indeed not just a matter of terminologies, in the sense that the terminology itself is a part of the worst that may be coming.

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread Avichal Bhatnagar
We can either focus only upon terminology, or think for the greater good, the choice is purely ours. On 12/29/15, akshun mahajan wrote: > I disagree with you avinash over it because radioudaan were the first > plateform who slammed government for this and we have

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread avinash shahi
Isn't it interesting to see no reactions from the NGO sector on the 'divyang'. I guess we will have four 5 editorials in the days to come in different national dalies. However why NGOs have not come up with their stands is incomprehensible. On 12/29/15, bala9119 wrote: >

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread bala9119
Although I could not have expressed like Anirban sir, he reverberated what I had in me. however, let me express my usual, extreme version. I am not afraid of the dam consequences. "when there was Godse for Gandhi to provide sanety to India, there will surely be someone for Modi to render justice."

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread avinash shahi
If debating terminology is merrly an academic quest then the dignity gets beating in the popular culture. If dalits had not objected to 'chamar' and other denigrating linguistic barbs they had not sceen the day when the Constitution accorded them protection and recognition. On 12/29/15,

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-29 Thread akshun mahajan
I disagree with you avinash over it because radioudaan were the first plateform who slammed government for this and we have even wrote to Mr. Modi but yes our big NGOs are quite for that and when I ask them they said and I quote terminology is not abig issue for us. On 12/29/15, avinash shahi

[AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-28 Thread avinash shahi
As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as ‘harijan’ sparked off a political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago, similarly the Prime Minister Modi’s new invention ‘divyang’ for addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and intellectual currents among the

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-28 Thread Anirban Mukherjee
Dear Avinash, if all the demands of the "divyangs" like 3% reservation, nomination to the upper house etc are accepted, still, this "divyang" would remain problematic for me. this mythologising of disabled people is an attempt to shift the focus away from the miserable siuation which most of us

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-28 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Dear Anirban I could not have said it better. Thank you. सादर / With thanks & Regards राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur 0712 2806846 President VIBEWA Co-Moderator VIB-India A-pilll = Action coupled

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-28 Thread avinash shahi
Amen Anirban Traditionally, the Indian mythology has depicted disable people as cruel souls. Now this shift to 'divyang' suggested by the head of the government through publick broadcast is even more frightening. We have all reason to discard such unilateral imposition of will by the Prime

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

2015-12-28 Thread manohar vaswani
dear avinash the government is also indulging in false propaganda to justify the use of divyang. today in the morning news at 8 A M there was a news that the hearing impaired students of U P spent some time in understanding the meaning of divyang and were elated after getting the meaning of