Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-15 Thread pranav.lal
Everyone, The problem with recording is that most CCTVV cameras do not capture audio unless you have specifically set them up for the same. Moreover, they are usually not in the rooms as far as I know so they will not help detect cheating. Pranav The list has now migrated to www.accessindia.inc

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-15 Thread SC Vashishth
This is so encouraging Avi that cut off for disabled is only 2 marks below the general cutt off. The challenge here is that all disabled candidates selected on marks above the general merit must go the general merit list and not counted against the reserved quota! Often the game by employers starts

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-15 Thread Rohit Trivedi
New testing mechanisms should be evolved for the blind. Many a times it is not possible for the candidates to respond to a MCQ  after listening to it even two to three times. Many a times when the candidate talks to his scribe or tries to work out the answer, the, invigilator presumes that the

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2017-12-14 Thread George Abraham
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent Dear Kanchan mam, Still you've 11 minutes for the meeting to start. Please, ask the ministry to dig in the archive of the complaints received by the CCPD Office over the years regarding bad scribes provided b

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2017-12-14 Thread Mujeeb Rahman
Second Yajesh and Gupta. On 12/14/17, Avee Gupta wrote: > I agree with the opinion of not imposing any restrictions on scribe > guidelines but as far as my knowledge the cut of's of various > examinations like IBPS and SBI officer as well as clerical have multi > folded in these 4 years . > Sinc

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2017-12-14 Thread avinash shahi
Message- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Dinesh Kaushal >>> Sent: 14 December 2017 18:15 >>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning >&

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2017-12-14 Thread Renuka Warriar Edakkunni
gt;> Of Dinesh Kaushal >> Sent: 14 December 2017 18:15 >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning >> the disabled.' >> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent >> >> I guess we may not have to worry about all th

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2017-12-14 Thread Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent: 14 December 2017 18:15 > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled.' > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent > > I guess we may not have to worry about all these conditions if video > recording of the session could be

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2017-12-14 Thread Avee Gupta
I agree with the opinion of not imposing any restrictions on scribe guidelines but as far as my knowledge the cut of's of various examinations like IBPS and SBI officer as well as clerical have multi folded in these 4 years . Since 2014 the cut off has almost doubled instead of the rise in level o

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2017-12-14 Thread Yogesh Chhabra
mthanawala > Sent: 14 December 2017 17:12 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent > > Dear Kanchan Ma'am, > Apologies for not contributing much to the precise question as

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2017-12-14 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
> and give rise to unviable solutions. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Amit Jain > Sent: 14 December 2017 19:52 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning >

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2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
t: 14 December 2017 19:52 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent I do not take the facility of scribe but people who use the facility have no chocie but to take scribes provided by the institute which are m

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2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
ssues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent Dear Kanchan Ma'am, Apologies for not contributing much to the precise question as I do not have the OM at hand. My only request is that whatever the outcome of the meeting, please ensure that the guidelines formulated a

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent I do not take the facility of scribe but people who use the facility have no chocie but to take scribes provided by the institute which are mostly teaching associates (who work

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2017-12-14 Thread Amit Jain
gt; > > However someone has gone to the Bombay High Court and asked for ban > > > of private scribes. Luckily court has not agreed but has put the > > > onus on the Expert Committeee which is meeting tomorrow. > > > Will try and send you comments of NIVH to understand

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar Sent: 14 December 2017 19:23 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent I might be castigated for saying this, but still I will say it as it is the truth. There

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2017-12-14 Thread Avichal Bhatnagar
efend these guidelines even > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay > Sent: 14 December 2017 17:53 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disable

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2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
Of Amit Jain Sent: 14 December 2017 19:06 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent One batch lower would be a harsh condition I would say. Take IIMs as an example, MBA is for two years, so when I enter in

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Amit Jain
ia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf > Of Amit Jain > Sent: 14 December 2017 18:59 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent > > As far as my expeirnce goes, video and aud

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Amit Jain
Kanchan > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf > Of Mohib Anwar Rafay > Sent: 14 December 2017 17:53 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject:

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
Behalf Of Amit Jain Sent: 14 December 2017 18:59 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent As far as my expeirnce goes, video and audio recording may not be feasable. When I proposed the same in my institute, my

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Amit Jain
gt; Of Dinesh Kaushal > Sent: 14 December 2017 18:15 > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled.' > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent > > I guess we may not have to worry about all these conditions if video &

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: 14 December 2017 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent The court doesn't take notice of the incidents those occur because of bad scribe or completely worthless sc

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
Behalf Of Dinesh Kaushal Sent: 14 December 2017 18:15 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent I guess we may not have to worry about all these conditions if video recording of the session cou

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
. Thanks Kanchan -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: 14 December 2017 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

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2017-12-14 Thread Dinesh Kaushal
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:59 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent See the opinion of some stake holders. I h

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2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
t: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent Dear Kanchan, I strongly disagree on putting any restrictions on scribes. It would be like raising the kerbs on the kerb ramps because some biker users misuse the pedestrian sidewalks. This is an issue of enforcement. The mechanism of invigilation need to be

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2017-12-14 Thread Amit Jain
16:43 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent > > No limitations should be imposed on scribes. The only remedy to check the > mal-practices is strict vigilance. Just think how non-scribe user &

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2017-12-14 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
ember 2017 16:43 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent > > No limitations should be imposed on scribes. The only remedy to check the > mal-practices is strict vigilance. Just think ho

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread SC Vashishth
Dear Kanchan, I strongly disagree on putting any restrictions on scribes. It would be like raising the kerbs on the kerb ramps because some biker users misuse the pedestrian sidewalks. This is an issue of enforcement. The mechanism of invigilation need to be made foolproof. Also there has to be g

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Avichal Bhatnagar
fail to do enough on that front. > > Harish. > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of avinash shahi > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:43 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and is

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
to fall. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 14 December 2017 16:43 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent No

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
to fall. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 14 December 2017 16:43 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent No

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
to fall. Kanchan -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 14 December 2017 16:43 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

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2017-12-14 Thread Kotian, H P
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:43 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent No limitations should be imposed on scribes. The only remedy to check the mal-practices is strict vigilance. Just think ho

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2017-12-14 Thread turab chimthanawala
Dear Kanchan Ma'am, Apologies for not contributing much to the precise question as I do not have the OM at hand. My only request is that whatever the outcome of the meeting, please ensure that the guidelines formulated are uniform for all exams having overriding effect over all unique and stupid

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread avinash shahi
No limitations should be imposed on scribes. The only remedy to check the mal-practices is strict vigilance. Just think how non-scribe user examinees are not allowed to cheat cause the strict enforcement mechanisms. the limitation such as Educational qualification is an absurd and the government ha

[AI] Scribe guidelines urgent

2017-12-14 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
Referring to OM of 26th Feb 2013 What limitations can we allow on scribes This is critical because tomorrow there is a meeting. Someone has gone to the Bombay High Court and asked that private scribes be banned. Luckily the court has not agreed with this decision. However we will have