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respected harish sir! I think, this is being very unfair to avinash--so utterly one-sided view. I fail to understand why you are being so soft on that gentleman who thinks, speaks and writes in bad taste. On 2/25/14, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Avinash Please realise, you may have some opinion, However, it is not necessary all should be carrying the same. There are many ways to solve any problem. I have made it very clear, the list cannot be jeopardised to launch personal attacks. I could not find anything new which you had not expressed in the past. If you don't change your ways, I will have to step in. Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 25 February 2014 14:47 To: abid...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Kindly answer for this So what? You are almost thirty years older to me. So my consciousness alerted at least I should give little reverence only because of age. . But Otherwise, your deeds have always been biased and anti-blind which if we had not campaigned for referring this Bill to a standing committee. You would certainly had been celebrating in the glory of your activism by now. I don't care whether you stay here or I stay. But your deceitful action against blind in particular, is highly objectionable. But I must warrrn you, now blind is equally able to access to read and write, and will halt all your ulteriour attempts to remain in the limelight for no reason. We also know how to use media, and you will come to know within few weeks. On 2/25/14, abid...@gmail.com abid...@gmail.com wrote: ???!!! Avinash, what is wrong with you my friend? Just a couple of hours ago you wrote to me a nice, kind email having the grace to apologise in public and now, suddenly you are out spewing venom all over again!! Anyway, I have had enough. I will write 1 or 2 more emails as I have promised them and then, I must leave this e list. Sent on my BlackBerry(r) from Vodafone -Original Message- From: avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com Sender: AccessIndia accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:22:31 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Reply-To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Kindly answer for this Agree with Poonam. Mr Abidi deserves strong condemnation from all who want law in spirit for the persons with disabilities. Do you remember how he was laughing during the NDTV debate? And let us be on guard to counter any such attempts in future by him who is anti-visually challenged at the least. By the way, NFB's one team has met Sonia Gandhi today in Rai Bareli and she has informed no ordinance is being contumplated and interests of blind people will be taken care of at any cost. On 2/25/14, Poonam poonam...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends! Feels good to see some big-brotherly and even big-sisterly, goody-goody sounding sermons whether or not they take note of the ground realities. While no person with a sane and sensible head over her/his shoulders will ever disagree that one must exercise restraint in the matter of one's utterances, these big-brotherly and big-sisterly sermons should better be directed with pronounced emphasis at the individual who is a past master in the skills of spewing venom and in being personal. It is noteworty that someone's attempt to divide the blind by praising and thanking a few and by condemning some others should have gone so unnoticed so far by those few who are now pontificating on use of language. Registering one's protest against what one thinks is wrong, or stating a fact does not constitute abusive language. I feel nobody has used any objectionable language against that gentleman whom a few of us are perhaps at pains to defend for recondite reasons. I feel we must roundly condemn that person's sinister attempt to downplay Mr. Rungta's contributions and support-base when one makes a devious attempt to create a false impression that only six or seven people are supporting him. I have not heard anything more laughable than this in recent times. Best regards, Poonam! On 2/25/14, Parmala Bhat parimala2...@gmail.com wrote: I think the moderator should close this polluted thread. not good to insult anyone in such harsh manner.this shows that people can think from only one angle. try to find solution and not aggravate the issue. - Original Message - From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in; neelima24su...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday,
Re: [AI] Moderator: RE: Kindly answer for this
Hi Poonam Many thanks for raising the right question to the moderator. In fact many people on the list are behaving as they are going to be benefitted by Mr Abidi. These few can for their intests can play with the interest of the majority. Otherwise, all these who are talking for unity and collective cooperation were sitting comfortably when we were protesting meeting MPs and mobilising people. Thank you. On 2/25/14, Poonam poonam...@gmail.com wrote: respected harish sir! I think, this is being very unfair to avinash--so utterly one-sided view. I fail to understand why you are being so soft on that gentleman who thinks, speaks and writes in bad taste. On 2/25/14, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Avinash Please realise, you may have some opinion, However, it is not necessary all should be carrying the same. There are many ways to solve any problem. I have made it very clear, the list cannot be jeopardised to launch personal attacks. I could not find anything new which you had not expressed in the past. If you don't change your ways, I will have to step in. Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 25 February 2014 14:47 To: abid...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Kindly answer for this So what? You are almost thirty years older to me. So my consciousness alerted at least I should give little reverence only because of age. . But Otherwise, your deeds have always been biased and anti-blind which if we had not campaigned for referring this Bill to a standing committee. You would certainly had been celebrating in the glory of your activism by now. I don't care whether you stay here or I stay. But your deceitful action against blind in particular, is highly objectionable. But I must warrrn you, now blind is equally able to access to read and write, and will halt all your ulteriour attempts to remain in the limelight for no reason. We also know how to use media, and you will come to know within few weeks. On 2/25/14, abid...@gmail.com abid...@gmail.com wrote: ???!!! Avinash, what is wrong with you my friend? Just a couple of hours ago you wrote to me a nice, kind email having the grace to apologise in public and now, suddenly you are out spewing venom all over again!! Anyway, I have had enough. I will write 1 or 2 more emails as I have promised them and then, I must leave this e list. Sent on my BlackBerry(r) from Vodafone -Original Message- From: avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com Sender: AccessIndia accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:22:31 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Reply-To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Kindly answer for this Agree with Poonam. Mr Abidi deserves strong condemnation from all who want law in spirit for the persons with disabilities. Do you remember how he was laughing during the NDTV debate? And let us be on guard to counter any such attempts in future by him who is anti-visually challenged at the least. By the way, NFB's one team has met Sonia Gandhi today in Rai Bareli and she has informed no ordinance is being contumplated and interests of blind people will be taken care of at any cost. On 2/25/14, Poonam poonam...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends! Feels good to see some big-brotherly and even big-sisterly, goody-goody sounding sermons whether or not they take note of the ground realities. While no person with a sane and sensible head over her/his shoulders will ever disagree that one must exercise restraint in the matter of one's utterances, these big-brotherly and big-sisterly sermons should better be directed with pronounced emphasis at the individual who is a past master in the skills of spewing venom and in being personal. It is noteworty that someone's attempt to divide the blind by praising and thanking a few and by condemning some others should have gone so unnoticed so far by those few who are now pontificating on use of language. Registering one's protest against what one thinks is wrong, or stating a fact does not constitute abusive language. I feel nobody has used any objectionable language against that gentleman whom a few of us are perhaps at pains to defend for recondite reasons. I feel we must roundly condemn that person's sinister attempt to downplay Mr. Rungta's contributions and support-base when one makes a devious attempt to create a false impression that only six or seven people are supporting him. I have not heard anything more laughable than this in recent times. Best regards, Poonam! On 2/25/14, Parmala Bhat
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We girls of Tamilnadu stands on behalf of Avinash and university students who spend sleepless nights to stop this falty bill passing which badly discrimanated us on legal grounds. Please think of many of rural and uneducated disabled woman society in our country. Thanks we are happy that we have someone who can ask questions on our behalf. The question which our brother raised is the question put forth by many of blind and other disabled woman in our country especially from Tamilnadu. Sir, we are neither from rich in wealth nor people supportive background, if the law of this country fails to give us protection then who will? We are unable to travel and give support to our brothers and sisters during protest, but we were also without sleep and peace until now due to this hasty RPD bill. We don't know about the law procedure but we believe that we have our brothers and sisters who will take decisions to protect provide better amendments to this so called RPD 2014. Thanks Poonam and Avinash, Ajay and many unknown bro sis who are in front of us to protect us. On 2/25/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Poonam Many thanks for raising the right question to the moderator. In fact many people on the list are behaving as they are going to be benefitted by Mr Abidi. These few can for their intests can play with the interest of the majority. Otherwise, all these who are talking for unity and collective cooperation were sitting comfortably when we were protesting meeting MPs and mobilising people. Thank you. On 2/25/14, Poonam poonam...@gmail.com wrote: respected harish sir! I think, this is being very unfair to avinash--so utterly one-sided view. I fail to understand why you are being so soft on that gentleman who thinks, speaks and writes in bad taste. On 2/25/14, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Avinash Please realise, you may have some opinion, However, it is not necessary all should be carrying the same. There are many ways to solve any problem. I have made it very clear, the list cannot be jeopardised to launch personal attacks. I could not find anything new which you had not expressed in the past. If you don't change your ways, I will have to step in. Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 25 February 2014 14:47 To: abid...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Kindly answer for this So what? You are almost thirty years older to me. So my consciousness alerted at least I should give little reverence only because of age. . But Otherwise, your deeds have always been biased and anti-blind which if we had not campaigned for referring this Bill to a standing committee. You would certainly had been celebrating in the glory of your activism by now. I don't care whether you stay here or I stay. But your deceitful action against blind in particular, is highly objectionable. But I must warrrn you, now blind is equally able to access to read and write, and will halt all your ulteriour attempts to remain in the limelight for no reason. We also know how to use media, and you will come to know within few weeks. On 2/25/14, abid...@gmail.com abid...@gmail.com wrote: ???!!! Avinash, what is wrong with you my friend? Just a couple of hours ago you wrote to me a nice, kind email having the grace to apologise in public and now, suddenly you are out spewing venom all over again!! Anyway, I have had enough. I will write 1 or 2 more emails as I have promised them and then, I must leave this e list. Sent on my BlackBerry(r) from Vodafone -Original Message- From: avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com Sender: AccessIndia accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:22:31 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Reply-To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Kindly answer for this Agree with Poonam. Mr Abidi deserves strong condemnation from all who want law in spirit for the persons with disabilities. Do you remember how he was laughing during the NDTV debate? And let us be on guard to counter any such attempts in future by him who is anti-visually challenged at the least. By the way, NFB's one team has met Sonia Gandhi today in Rai Bareli and she has informed no ordinance is being contumplated and interests of blind people will be taken care of at any cost. On 2/25/14, Poonam poonam...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends! Feels good to see some big-brotherly and even big-sisterly, goody-goody sounding sermons whether or not they take note of the ground realities. While no person with a sane and sensible head over her/his
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it feels so strange and disheartening on the same time to see such bias comments from a person like Harish sir. Regards. Ajay On 2/25/14, Radha r.radh...@gmail.com wrote: We girls of Tamilnadu stands on behalf of Avinash and university students who spend sleepless nights to stop this falty bill passing which badly discrimanated us on legal grounds. Please think of many of rural and uneducated disabled woman society in our country. Thanks we are happy that we have someone who can ask questions on our behalf. The question which our brother raised is the question put forth by many of blind and other disabled woman in our country especially from Tamilnadu. Sir, we are neither from rich in wealth nor people supportive background, if the law of this country fails to give us protection then who will? We are unable to travel and give support to our brothers and sisters during protest, but we were also without sleep and peace until now due to this hasty RPD bill. We don't know about the law procedure but we believe that we have our brothers and sisters who will take decisions to protect provide better amendments to this so called RPD 2014. Thanks Poonam and Avinash, Ajay and many unknown bro sis who are in front of us to protect us. On 2/25/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Poonam Many thanks for raising the right question to the moderator. In fact many people on the list are behaving as they are going to be benefitted by Mr Abidi. These few can for their intests can play with the interest of the majority. Otherwise, all these who are talking for unity and collective cooperation were sitting comfortably when we were protesting meeting MPs and mobilising people. Thank you. On 2/25/14, Poonam poonam...@gmail.com wrote: respected harish sir! I think, this is being very unfair to avinash--so utterly one-sided view. I fail to understand why you are being so soft on that gentleman who thinks, speaks and writes in bad taste. On 2/25/14, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Avinash Please realise, you may have some opinion, However, it is not necessary all should be carrying the same. There are many ways to solve any problem. I have made it very clear, the list cannot be jeopardised to launch personal attacks. I could not find anything new which you had not expressed in the past. If you don't change your ways, I will have to step in. Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 25 February 2014 14:47 To: abid...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Kindly answer for this So what? You are almost thirty years older to me. So my consciousness alerted at least I should give little reverence only because of age. . But Otherwise, your deeds have always been biased and anti-blind which if we had not campaigned for referring this Bill to a standing committee. You would certainly had been celebrating in the glory of your activism by now. I don't care whether you stay here or I stay. But your deceitful action against blind in particular, is highly objectionable. But I must warrrn you, now blind is equally able to access to read and write, and will halt all your ulteriour attempts to remain in the limelight for no reason. We also know how to use media, and you will come to know within few weeks. On 2/25/14, abid...@gmail.com abid...@gmail.com wrote: ???!!! Avinash, what is wrong with you my friend? Just a couple of hours ago you wrote to me a nice, kind email having the grace to apologise in public and now, suddenly you are out spewing venom all over again!! Anyway, I have had enough. I will write 1 or 2 more emails as I have promised them and then, I must leave this e list. Sent on my BlackBerry(r) from Vodafone -Original Message- From: avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com Sender: AccessIndia accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:22:31 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Reply-To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Kindly answer for this Agree with Poonam. Mr Abidi deserves strong condemnation from all who want law in spirit for the persons with disabilities. Do you remember how he was laughing during the NDTV debate? And let us be on guard to counter any such attempts in future by him who is anti-visually challenged at the least. By the way, NFB's one team has met Sonia Gandhi today in Rai Bareli and she has informed no ordinance is being contumplated and interests of blind people will be taken care of at any cost. On 2/25/14, Poonam poonam...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends! Feels good to see
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Dear Harish sir, this is place where we can discuss all the issues. in this process we have discussed the r.p.d. bill with mr. Abidi. When mr. Abidi made arguement that you people like Avinash are bias then he avinash made good argument that a disable activist who is claiming that he is representating whole community that can not make this type of mistake at all. like anti-disable bill should be passed. where disable can be discriminated legally. if mr.Abidi has made this mistake then he said in clearly then What is wrong in ti. Here I would like to say you Please encourage this type of open discussion at the ground level rather than discouraging the open,truithful and long lasting impact on the disable community. secondly i want to say that here on the mailing list no body is superior. everyone equal and having equal right to express his or her opinion. being a political science student I can tell you that this is actual original imagination and original position which is imagined by John wrals in his book theory of justice. Here nobody know who is what? therefoere this is stage of faire discussion platform. in the end, I request to moderator that please increase this type of debate on this mailing list. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
