Re: [AI] Me too..disability sector

2018-11-09 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
While I do understand coming out by women suffering silently for all these 
years and enormous social media support to them, let us not take their 
assertions as the proof of guilt of the males.
It is a very complex issue, and N number of variables come into play.
But, I think a no has to be clearly spelt out even at the time of any such 
incident, and cannot be a post-facto addendum.
With blindness, the situation becomes even more complicated.
Difference between a normal touch, and touch desired by blind individuals as a 
comforting/communication basis, and the touch with ulterior motive has to be 
well appreciated.

A no is a no, of course, but it has to be clearly stated or demonstrated 
immediately and should not emerge after.

My comments are not confined to the specific event in question here.

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Can someone please let me know that who that culprit is? if it isn't possible 
to tell it here in the public space, then can someone please tell me via 
private mail?

On 11/9/18, Shadab Husain  wrote:
> So unfortunate to know this. I'm standing with you Shampa ma'am. It
> certainly takes a lot of nerves to do what you did. More women will
> come up with their ordeals if we the men promise to stand with them.
>
> I'm not familiar with the proceedings of the sector so I can't guess
> who the unnamed person is. But time to smash the authorities, no
> matter however powerful.
>
> www.husainjournal.blogspot.noclick_com
>
>
>
> On 11/8/18, Anirban Mukherjee  wrote:
>> Hats off to Shampa ma'am for coming out with this ordeal. It is
>> distressing for someone who has the opportunity of working on some of
>> these issues closely with her. Really, I'm speechless!
>> As for naming the perpitrater, she has ennumerated her reasons.
>> Therefore,
>> I would request everyone to draw their own inferences rather than
>> searching for the name. In fact, senior activists can easily identify
>> who the person is.
>>
>> Thanks and regards, Anirban Mukherjee,
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 5:17 PM Avichal Bhatnagar > wrote:
>>
>>> Salute to Shampa Ma'am for speaking up against the harassment which
>>> she had to face. It is rightly said that "power corrupts, and
>>> absolute power corrupts absolutely."
>>> However, I feel that she should have named the culprit, as what he
>>> did with her, he might do with other women as well. A lot many
>>> disabled women won't even be able to narrate their stories on social media.
>>> The entire idea of metoo is to publically name the culprit.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Avichal
>>>
>>> On 11/7/18, nirmal verma  wrote:
>>> > Dear Friends
>>> >
>>> > Sharing with you link to a story by shampa sengupta. Kudos to her
>>> > for standing out and telling her ordeal.
>>> >
>>> > Shampa sengupta hasnt revealed the name but I believe people in
>>> > this
>>> group
>>> > know him. A clear cut boycot of such people is needed.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > https://feminisminindia.noclick_com/2018/11/07/me-too-disability-s
>>> > ector/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Nirmal Verma
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: [AI] Me too..disability sector

2018-11-09 Thread Akash Kakkar
Can someone please let me know that who that culprit is? if it isn't
possible to tell it here in the public space, then can someone please
tell me via private mail?

On 11/9/18, Shadab Husain  wrote:
> So unfortunate to know this. I'm standing with you Shampa ma'am. It
> certainly takes a lot of nerves to do what you did. More women will
> come up with their ordeals if we the men promise to stand with them.
>
> I'm not familiar with the proceedings of the sector so I can't guess
> who the unnamed person is. But time to smash the authorities, no
> matter however powerful.
>
> www.husainjournal.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> On 11/8/18, Anirban Mukherjee  wrote:
>> Hats off to Shampa ma'am for coming out with this ordeal. It is
>> distressing
>> for someone who has the opportunity of working on some of these issues
>> closely with her. Really, I'm speechless!
>> As for naming the perpitrater, she has ennumerated her reasons.
>> Therefore,
>> I would request everyone to draw their own inferences rather than
>> searching
>> for the name. In fact, senior activists can easily identify who the
>> person
>> is.
>>
>> Thanks and regards, Anirban Mukherjee,
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 5:17 PM Avichal Bhatnagar > wrote:
>>
>>> Salute to Shampa Ma'am for speaking up against the harassment which
>>> she had to face. It is rightly said that "power corrupts, and absolute
>>> power corrupts absolutely."
>>> However, I feel that she should have named the culprit, as what he did
>>> with her, he might do with other women as well. A lot many disabled
>>> women won't even be able to narrate their stories on social media.
>>> The entire idea of metoo is to publically name the culprit.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Avichal
>>>
>>> On 11/7/18, nirmal verma  wrote:
>>> > Dear Friends
>>> >
>>> > Sharing with you link to a story by shampa sengupta. Kudos to her for
>>> > standing out and telling her ordeal.
>>> >
>>> > Shampa sengupta hasnt revealed the name but I believe people in this
>>> group
>>> > know him. A clear cut boycot of such people is needed.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > https://feminisminindia.com/2018/11/07/me-too-disability-sector/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Nirmal Verma
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: [AI] Me too..disability sector

2018-11-08 Thread Shadab Husain
So unfortunate to know this. I'm standing with you Shampa ma'am. It
certainly takes a lot of nerves to do what you did. More women will
come up with their ordeals if we the men promise to stand with them.

I'm not familiar with the proceedings of the sector so I can't guess
who the unnamed person is. But time to smash the authorities, no
matter however powerful.

www.husainjournal.blogspot.com



On 11/8/18, Anirban Mukherjee  wrote:
> Hats off to Shampa ma'am for coming out with this ordeal. It is distressing
> for someone who has the opportunity of working on some of these issues
> closely with her. Really, I'm speechless!
> As for naming the perpitrater, she has ennumerated her reasons. Therefore,
> I would request everyone to draw their own inferences rather than searching
> for the name. In fact, senior activists can easily identify who the person
> is.
>
> Thanks and regards, Anirban Mukherjee,
>
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 5:17 PM Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
>
>> Salute to Shampa Ma'am for speaking up against the harassment which
>> she had to face. It is rightly said that "power corrupts, and absolute
>> power corrupts absolutely."
>> However, I feel that she should have named the culprit, as what he did
>> with her, he might do with other women as well. A lot many disabled
>> women won't even be able to narrate their stories on social media.
>> The entire idea of metoo is to publically name the culprit.
>> Thanks,
>> Avichal
>>
>> On 11/7/18, nirmal verma  wrote:
>> > Dear Friends
>> >
>> > Sharing with you link to a story by shampa sengupta. Kudos to her for
>> > standing out and telling her ordeal.
>> >
>> > Shampa sengupta hasnt revealed the name but I believe people in this
>> group
>> > know him. A clear cut boycot of such people is needed.
>> >
>> >
>> > https://feminisminindia.com/2018/11/07/me-too-disability-sector/
>> >
>> >
>> > Nirmal Verma
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Search for old postings at:
>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
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>> --
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>>
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Re: [AI] Me too..disability sector

2018-11-08 Thread Anirban Mukherjee
Hats off to Shampa ma'am for coming out with this ordeal. It is distressing
for someone who has the opportunity of working on some of these issues
closely with her. Really, I'm speechless!
As for naming the perpitrater, she has ennumerated her reasons. Therefore,
I would request everyone to draw their own inferences rather than searching
for the name. In fact, senior activists can easily identify who the person
is.

Thanks and regards, Anirban Mukherjee,

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 5:17 PM Avichal Bhatnagar  Salute to Shampa Ma'am for speaking up against the harassment which
> she had to face. It is rightly said that "power corrupts, and absolute
> power corrupts absolutely."
> However, I feel that she should have named the culprit, as what he did
> with her, he might do with other women as well. A lot many disabled
> women won't even be able to narrate their stories on social media.
> The entire idea of metoo is to publically name the culprit.
> Thanks,
> Avichal
>
> On 11/7/18, nirmal verma  wrote:
> > Dear Friends
> >
> > Sharing with you link to a story by shampa sengupta. Kudos to her for
> > standing out and telling her ordeal.
> >
> > Shampa sengupta hasnt revealed the name but I believe people in this
> group
> > know him. A clear cut boycot of such people is needed.
> >
> >
> > https://feminisminindia.com/2018/11/07/me-too-disability-sector/
> >
> >
> > Nirmal Verma
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [AI] Me too..disability sector

2018-11-07 Thread Avichal Bhatnagar
Salute to Shampa Ma'am for speaking up against the harassment which
she had to face. It is rightly said that "power corrupts, and absolute
power corrupts absolutely."
However, I feel that she should have named the culprit, as what he did
with her, he might do with other women as well. A lot many disabled
women won't even be able to narrate their stories on social media.
The entire idea of metoo is to publically name the culprit.
Thanks,
Avichal

On 11/7/18, nirmal verma  wrote:
> Dear Friends
>
> Sharing with you link to a story by shampa sengupta. Kudos to her for
> standing out and telling her ordeal.
>
> Shampa sengupta hasnt revealed the name but I believe people in this group
> know him. A clear cut boycot of such people is needed.
>
>
> https://feminisminindia.com/2018/11/07/me-too-disability-sector/
>
>
> Nirmal Verma
>
>
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