Re: [Ace] RATS Entity Attestation Tokens (EAT) - to be a CWT or not to be a CWT?

2020-03-04 Thread Jim Schaad
-Original Message- From: Ace On Behalf Of Henk Birkholz Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 2:33 PM To: Jim Schaad ; r...@ietf.org; ace@ietf.org; c...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ace] RATS Entity Attestation Tokens (EAT) - to be a CWT or not to be a CWT? Hi Jim, I'll take a stake into my

Re: [Ace] RATS Entity Attestation Tokens (EAT) - to be a CWT or not to be a CWT?

2020-03-04 Thread Henk Birkholz
Oh. Yes. Sorry. Tired and therefore still claiming #notavampire On 04.03.20 23:46, Carsten Bormann wrote: On 2020-03-04, at 23:33, Henk Birkholz wrote: Option 1.) is "out of the question" as a reply from a COSE WG chair. Option 1.) is "out of the question" as a reply from the author of

Re: [Ace] RATS Entity Attestation Tokens (EAT) - to be a CWT or not to be a CWT?

2020-03-04 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 2020-03-04, at 23:33, Henk Birkholz wrote: > > Option 1.) is "out of the question" as a reply from a COSE WG chair. Option 1.) is "out of the question" as a reply from the author of the COSE specification. (And at least one other WG member agrees.) FTFY… Grüße, Carsten

Re: [Ace] RATS Entity Attestation Tokens (EAT) - to be a CWT or not to be a CWT?

2020-03-04 Thread Henk Birkholz
Hi Jim, I'll take a stake into my heart for the group then :) Please note that I claim that there is no evidence that I am a vampire nor that I am the provenance of option 1.). I tried to phrase the output of the last virtual interim as neutral as possible and I think your reply is to be

Re: [Ace] RATS Entity Attestation Tokens (EAT) - to be a CWT or not to be a CWT?

2020-03-04 Thread Jim Schaad
Henk, Well you have definitely written a message designed to get a response from me. -Original Message- From: Ace On Behalf Of Henk Birkholz Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:41 AM To: r...@ietf.org; ace@ietf.org; c...@ietf.org Subject: [Ace] RATS Entity Attestation Tokens (EAT) - to be

Re: [Ace] RATS Entity Attestation Tokens (EAT) - to be a CWT or not to be a CWT?

2020-03-04 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 2020-03-04, at 19:40, Henk Birkholz wrote: > > 1.) go to COSE and ask for a "null signature", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Say_No > 2.) go to ACE and ask for an "unsigned token" option, or > 3.) go to CBOR and ask for a tag for "naked" CWT Claim Sets (i.e., that are > not signed). I

[Ace] RATS Entity Attestation Tokens (EAT) - to be a CWT or not to be a CWT?

2020-03-04 Thread Henk Birkholz
Hi RATS enthusiasts, hi ACE, hi CBOR, in the RATS WG we had a lot of discussions about the nature of an Entity Attestation Token (EAT): > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rats-eat/ > https://github.com/ietf-rats-wg/eat/ A bit of (hopefully useful) context: an EAT is one way to