Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-25 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org; Michael Richardson ; ace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2 Hi Panos, Sorry for the slow response here -- I was in telechat-prep mode last week. This is in pretty good shape, and I wanted to especially thank you

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-23 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
> Rgs, > Panos > > > -Original Message- > From: Ace On Behalf Of Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 12:18 AM > To: Jim Schaad ; 'Michael Richardson' > > Cc: draft-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org; 'Benjamin Kaduk' ; &

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-16 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
ter the threads converged. Panos -Original Message- From: Ace On Behalf Of Jim Schaad Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 11:34 PM To: 'Michael Richardson' Cc: draft-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org; 'Benjamin Kaduk' ; ace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12

2019-09-10 Thread Peter van der Stok
Hi all, below are comments to a subset of not yet concluded review exchanges. Peter ___ The serverkeygen endpoints could perhaps have some notation to indicate that the private key is always returned, in addition to the PKCS#7 vs. pkix-cert

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-09 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
: Ace On Behalf Of Jim Schaad Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 11:34 PM To: 'Michael Richardson' Cc: draft-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org; 'Benjamin Kaduk' ; ace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2 Authors, Are we ready to produce a new draft

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-09 Thread Jim Schaad
Kaduk' Cc: draft-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org; ace@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2 -Original Message- From: Michael Richardson Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 9:38 AM To: Benjamin Kaduk Cc: draft-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org; ace@ietf.org

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-09 Thread Jim Schaad
-Original Message- From: Michael Richardson Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 9:38 AM To: Benjamin Kaduk Cc: draft-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org; ace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2 Benjamin Kaduk wrote: >> So, on a constrained

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-09 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 05:38:23PM +0100, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > >> I think that we could go to TLS Exporter right now, but it would take > >> some work. > > > I'd rather have both classic-EST and coap-EST benefit than just > > coap-EST. > > So

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-09 Thread Michael Richardson
Benjamin Kaduk wrote: >> So, on a constrained device, I'd like to know what to expect (what to >> code for). While I do'nt particularly care for server-generated keys, >> it should probably be specified correctly. I see that the complexity >> of sorting this means that I think

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-09 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 12:54:12PM +0100, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Peter van der Stok wrote: > > . if the SignedData is not the outermost container, then we don't > > care what the relevant Content-Format for it is; we only care about the > > Content-Format for the

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-09 Thread Michael Richardson
Peter van der Stok wrote: > . if the SignedData is not the outermost container, then we don't > care what the relevant Content-Format for it is; we only care about the > Content-Format for the EnvelopedData. > > s/ SignedData is signed/SignedData, placed in the

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12

2019-09-06 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Mon, Sep 02, 2019 at 02:47:10PM +0200, Peter van der Stok wrote: > Hi Ben, > > Below some additional reactions to your review. > In some parts the term "suggest" is used, meaning that I am not sure of > the correctness of my reaction. > A confirmation/denial would be appreciated in those

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-06 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
[trimming] On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 02:18:22PM +0200, Peter van der Stok wrote: > >[RFC7030] recommends the use of additional encryption of the returned >private key. For the context of this specification, clients and >servers that choose to support server-side key generation MUST >

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-06 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
Stok > > SENT: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 5:18 AM > > TO: Benjamin Kaduk > > CC: Jim Schaad ; > > draft-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org; consulta...@vanderstok.org; > > ace@ietf.org > > SUBJECT: Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-06 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
gt; > > > > > > From: Peter van der Stok > Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:02 AM > To: Jim Schaad > Cc: consulta...@vanderstok.org; 'Benjamin Kaduk' ; > draft-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org; ace@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-a

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-05 Thread Peter van der Stok
0101101001100011... > > This looks correct to me. > > Jim > > FROM: Peter van der Stok > SENT: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:02 AM > TO: Jim Schaad > CC: consulta...@vanderstok.org; 'Benjamin Kaduk' ; > draft-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org; ace@ietf.or

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-04 Thread Peter van der Stok
f-ace-coap-est@ietf.org; consulta...@vanderstok.org; ace@ietf.org > SUBJECT: Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2 > > Hi Ben, > > the last part of the responses to your thorough review. > Apart from nits you found some "nice" mistakes. >

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-03 Thread Jim Schaad
I have pruned and tossed in a few [JLS] comments. Jim From: Peter van der Stok Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 5:18 AM To: Benjamin Kaduk Cc: Jim Schaad ; draft-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org; consulta...@vanderstok.org; ace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 part 2

2019-09-03 Thread Peter van der Stok
Hi Ben, the last part of the responses to your thorough review. Apart from nits you found some "nice" mistakes. the openssl example make me worry a bit. See below. Peter ___ When requesting server-side key generation, the

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12

2019-09-01 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
own perspective > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Ace On Behalf Of Benjamin Kaduk > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 4:37 PM > > To: draft-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org > > Cc: ace@ietf.org > > Subject: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12

2019-08-30 Thread Peter van der Stok
ive > > -Original Message- > From: Ace On Behalf Of Benjamin Kaduk > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 4:37 PM > To: draft-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org > Cc: ace@ietf.org > Subject: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 > > Hi all, > > A good number of

Re: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12

2019-08-29 Thread Jim Schaad
A couple of answers from my own perspective -Original Message- From: Ace On Behalf Of Benjamin Kaduk Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 4:37 PM To: draft-ietf-ace-coap-est@ietf.org Cc: ace@ietf.org Subject: [Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12 Hi all, A good number

[Ace] AD review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-12

2019-08-28 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
Hi all, A good number of comments here, though many are just nits. We may need some more in-depth discussion about only using certificates for client authentication (immediately below) and how we discuss server-keygen. Thanks, Ben