Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-24 Thread Jim Schaad
> -Original Message- > From: Ace On Behalf Of Michael Richardson > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 9:27 AM > To: consulta...@vanderstok.org > Cc: Esko Dijk ; Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) > ; ace@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-24 Thread Michael Richardson
Peter van der Stok wrote: > What do I read? when you do GET coap://example.com/.well-known/core > The discovery is on port 5683. When you do GET > coaps://example.com/.well-known/core the discovery port is 5684. yes, the question is, when you ask: coap://example.com/.well-known/co

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-24 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI Hi, What do I read? when you do GET coap://example.com/.well-known/core The discovery is on port 5683. When you do GET coaps://example.com/.well-known/core the discovery port is 5684. I agree that we did not assign a port to coaps

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-24 Thread Peter van der Stok
Hi, What do I read? when you do GET coap://example.com/.well-known/core The discovery is on port 5683. When you do GET coaps://example.com/.well-known/core the discovery port is 5684. I agree that we did not assign a port to coaps://example.com/est for that matter, and as such the example is inco

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-24 Thread Peter van der Stok
Sorry folks, But you confuse me. discovery is about /.well-known/core. I don't understand where /.well-known/est comes in for discovery. Peter. Esko Dijk schreef op 2018-09-21 10:24: >> I've asked if discovery is always required, permitted, or encouraged. > > Normally it is always encouraged to

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-21 Thread Esko Dijk
> I've asked if discovery is always required, permitted, or encouraged. Normally it is always encouraged to use discovery in favour of fixed URIs at the server, to avoid specs squatting the URI namespace. But in our case the /.well-known/est space is already assigned (RFC 7030) so we have to sup

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-21 Thread Esko Dijk
> I've seen it just return , but I guess if you want to return the > port number, you have to return the hostname... <:61616/est> won't do? The closest thing valid according to the ABNF definitions would be But unfortunately CoAP by its RFC 7252 URI definition forbids using an empty host (reg

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-20 Thread Michael Richardson
Esko Dijk wrote: > @Michael: > Since the EST resource is always present on the fixed port 5684 on URI > /.well-known/est - if a fixed port is needed e.g. for a join proxy, use > 5684 and the well-known URI. No discovery needed. I've asked if discovery is always required, permitt

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-20 Thread Michael Richardson
Esko Dijk wrote: > Indeed, and the ace-coap-est examples use port 61616 mostly. The > discovery Link Format is quite inefficient when returning results on > *different* endpoints. Example: > REQ: GET coap://[2001:db8::2:1]/.well-known/core?rt=ace.est > RES: 2.05 Content

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-20 Thread Esko Dijk
Esko From: Peter van der Stok Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 16:56 To: Michael Richardson Cc: Esko Dijk ; Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) ; ace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI Michael Richardson schreef op 2018-09-20 16:51: I didn't

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-20 Thread Peter van der Stok
Michael Richardson schreef op 2018-09-20 16:51: > I didn't think that CoAP resource discovery supports port numbers, does it? > > It does; at least for the 3rd party registration, but also examples in the RD > show return of port___ Ace mailing list Ac

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-20 Thread Michael Richardson
Esko Dijk wrote: > To be fully complete the URIs that can be discovered should also > include a port number, as they could be hosted at 5684 or any available > UDP port - other than 5683. >coaps://www.example.com:// > coaps://www.example.com://ArbitraryLabel/ I didn'

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-18 Thread Esko Dijk
en though it is kind of self-explanatory. I hope it makes sense. Panos From: Ace [mailto:ace-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Esko Dijk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:10 AM To: mailto:ace@ietf.org Subject: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI Dear all/authors

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-17 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
12, 2018 11:10 AM To: mailto:ace@ietf.org Subject: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI Dear all/authors of ace-coap-est, Section 5 of ace-coap-est-05 indicates URI discovery is possible to find the EST functions entry point URI. Also a well-known URI is defined: coap

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-15 Thread Esko Dijk
to specify that the labl should be as short as possible, even though it is kind of self-explanatory. I hope it makes sense. Panos From: Ace [mailto:ace-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Esko Dijk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:10 AM To: mailto:ace@ietf.org Subject: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclea

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-13 Thread Peter van der Stok
hope it makes sense. > > Panos > > FROM: Ace [mailto:ace-boun...@ietf.org] ON BEHALF OF Esko Dijk > SENT: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:10 AM > TO: ace@ietf.org > SUBJECT: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI > > Dear all/authors of ace-c

Re: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-12 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
possible, even though it is kind of self-explanatory. I hope it makes sense. Panos From: Ace [mailto:ace-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Esko Dijk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:10 AM To: ace@ietf.org Subject: [Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI Dear all

[Ace] ace-coap-est: unclear definition of /.well-known/est URI

2018-09-12 Thread Esko Dijk
Dear all/authors of ace-coap-est, Section 5 of ace-coap-est-05 indicates URI discovery is possible to find the EST functions entry point URI. Also a well-known URI is defined: coaps://www.example.com/.well-known/est/ArbitraryLabel/. This URI seems more complicated than needed? What if we simply