I think at least one of the draft authors is away until the 8th. Can we push out a week?
Eliot On Jan 13, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Kepeng Li <kepeng....@alibaba-inc.com<mailto:kepeng....@alibaba-inc.com>> wrote: Oh, sorry, my mistake. I made a mistake between you and Mike Jones. Let's change our call to Option 1, 9th Feb, Thursday, GMT 14:00 ~ 15:00. I will send out the WebEx info later. Kind Regards Kepeng ???: Ace <ace-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:ace-boun...@ietf.org>> on behalf of Michael StJohns <mstjo...@comcast.net<mailto:mstjo...@comcast.net>> ??: Saturday, 14 January 2017 at 12:28 AM ?: <ace@ietf.org<mailto:ace@ietf.org>> ??: Re: [Ace] Doodle for ACE virtual interim meeting On 1/13/2017 4:44 AM, Kepeng Li wrote: Hallo all, According to the doodle poll, let's have a call on 14th Feb, GMT 15:00 ~ 15:59. We have the same amount of participants about Option 1, 2, and 4. Considering that Mike has strong position about this draft, so I accommodate his choice to allow him to participate. Sorry what? I'm assuming by "Mike" you mean me. I missed the original doodle call and haven't actually made a choice. I can't actually make the 14th as I'm on a plane. I can make either of the Thursday 9 February times though. In any event, if the slides are ready ahead of time I'll just provide some commentary on the mailing list. I note that the authors haven't engaged with the comments provided by Jim Schaad and it would be useful if they do so. WRT to the document, its difficult to make any judgements or suggest any improvements without understanding the goals of the document. As a bare minimum, up front the document should a) define "low latency" including each element that contributes to the calculation (this has been a moving target - it was something like 250ms for DICE and appears to have moved downward in ACE) and b) define the security services that are to be provided when using the keys served up by this protocol. (e.g. it currently appears that the document is proposing a key management scheme for group confidentiality, group integrity and group authentication). Lastly, the document needs to include any other constraints. In the instant case, low latency may be accomplished by hardware for public key operations - but there is a constraint never actually cited in the document - low/no cost for the build of the product (it's referred to obliquely as processing cost for the constrained device and is more properly attributed to the BOM). If there is any other application besides lighting that has a use for this protocol - now is the time to bring it forward. Finally, a statement of security requirements for the exemplar application (lighting) should be provided so that the protocol can be evaluated against those requirements to see if we've actually managed to come up with something that meets the needs. Mike Authors, please prepare some slides for the discussion. I will send the WebEx information later. Thanks, Kind Regards Kepeng ???: Ace <ace-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:ace-boun...@ietf.org>> on behalf of Li Kepeng <kepeng....@alibaba-inc.com<mailto:kepeng....@alibaba-inc.com>> ??: Saturday, 7 January 2017 at 8:43 PM ?: ace <ace@ietf.org<mailto:ace@ietf.org>> ??: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com<mailto:kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com>>, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net<mailto:hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net>> ??: [Ace] Doodle for ACE virtual interim meeting Hi all, To speed up our progress on group communication security draft, we plan to have a virtual interim meeting in the middle of Feb. I proposed four options for the meeting time: 1. 9th Feb, Thursday, GMT 14:00 ~ 15:00. 2. 9th Feb, Thursday, GMT 15:00 ~ 15:59. 3. 14th Feb, Tuesday, GMT 14:00 ~ 15:00. 4. 14th Feb, Tuesday, GMT 15:00 ~ 15:59. Please indicate your available time from the doodle poll: http://doodle.com/poll/v6nbeggazekaq2ut We will mainly discuss this draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-somaraju-ace-multicast/ Thanks, Kind Regards Kepeng _______________________________________________ Ace mailing list Ace@ietf.org<mailto:Ace@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace _______________________________________________ Ace mailing list Ace@ietf.org<mailto:Ace@ietf.org>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace _______________________________________________ Ace mailing list Ace@ietf.org<mailto:Ace@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace _______________________________________________ Ace mailing list Ace@ietf.org<mailto:Ace@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace
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