Re: [Acme] Removing OOB Challenge Type

2017-12-08 Thread Salz, Rich
Thank you for the reminder. As chair, I say that we have consensus to remove the OOB challenge. ___ Acme mailing list Acme@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/acme

Re: [Acme] Removing OOB Challenge Type

2017-12-08 Thread Daniel McCarney
Happy Friday folks ;-) Can we move forward with removing the OOB challenge? It seems like there is rough consensus: Clint, Jacob, Andrew and myself all vote for removal. Robert posed one use-case that he thought required OOB challenges but doesn't, and one use-case where they have plans for the f

Re: [Acme] Removing OOB Challenge Type

2017-12-01 Thread Daniel McCarney
> > >> That’s not right. Deployments rarely occur right as the draft is > finished. > What isn't right? I expressed an opinion that entering last call for > specification text that hasn't been implemented by anyone seems like a > recipe for errata. My comment was also specific to implementations

Re: [Acme] Removing OOB Challenge Type

2017-12-01 Thread Daniel McCarney
> > That’s not right. Deployments rarely occur right as the draft is finished. What isn't right? I expressed an opinion that entering last call for specification text that hasn't been implemented by anyone seems like a recipe for errata. My comment was also specific to implementations not deploy

Re: [Acme] Removing OOB Challenge Type

2017-12-01 Thread Robert Kästel
Hi Daniel, You're right. I've misunderstood that. I don't have to use any challenges at all. I just set the authorization to valid if the domain is already pre-authorized (proprietary CA system-wise). We're targeting 2018 Q1 for the ACME service, but we're aware that we're dependent on the client

Re: [Acme] Removing OOB Challenge Type

2017-12-01 Thread Salz, Rich
* What date is planned for this release? If there won't be a client and server implementation available by the time we enter last call I still think it is most appropriate to defer the OOB challenge type as follow-up work. That’s not right. Deployments rarely occur right as the draft is fin

Re: [Acme] Removing OOB Challenge Type

2017-12-01 Thread Daniel McCarney
Hi Robert, > We're planning on using the OOB challenge type to signify pre-authorized > domains (in the existing CA system) as already validated challenges in the > ACME response, as described in section 7.4.1 Pre-authorization [0]. I don't think Section 7.4.1 indicates that you should use auth

Re: [Acme] Removing OOB Challenge Type

2017-12-01 Thread Robert Kästel
We at Telia Company are working on an ACME server implementation that is going to integrate with an existing CA system using external account binding. We're planning on using the OOB challenge type to signify pre-authorized domains (in the existing CA system) as already validated challenges in the

Re: [Acme] Removing OOB Challenge Type

2017-11-30 Thread Andrew Ayer
No objections here. Regards, Andrew On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 10:22:56 -0800 Jacob Hoffman-Andrews wrote: > I agree with this change. It's a good plan to not try and pre-specify > things like OOB that aren't on anyone's roadmap, because that leaves > the space open for a better specification once som

Re: [Acme] Removing OOB Challenge Type

2017-11-30 Thread Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
I agree with this change. It's a good plan to not try and pre-specify things like OOB that aren't on anyone's roadmap, because that leaves the space open for a better specification once someone wants to implement it. On 11/30/2017 09:39 AM, Clint Wilson wrote: > > I agree with the reasoning and de

Re: [Acme] Removing OOB Challenge Type

2017-11-30 Thread Clint Wilson
I agree with the reasoning and decision to remove this. While I think it's possible for this challenge type to become useful in the future, I don't have any justification for keeping it in in the meantime. As Daniel notes, it's straightforward to add it back if needed. On Thu, Nov 30, 2017, 10:25

Re: [Acme] Removing OOB Challenge Type

2017-11-30 Thread Daniel McCarney
> Daniel, please do not merge this until we determine WG consensus Of course :-) I don't have any merge privileges! On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Salz, Rich wrote: > Does anyone disagree with Daniel’s reasoning? If so, please speak up > before next Friday. > > > > Daniel, please do not me

Re: [Acme] Removing OOB Challenge Type

2017-11-30 Thread Salz, Rich
Does anyone disagree with Daniel’s reasoning? If so, please speak up before next Friday. Daniel, please do not merge this until we determine WG consensus. ___ Acme mailing list Acme@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/acme