Re: [Acme] Allow get for certificates?

2018-10-09 Thread Daniel McCarney
> The narrow fix -- Remove "orders." No one implements it, and this is the > least disruptive option to a mature spec. I support this narrow fix. On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 3:25 PM Jacob Hoffman-Andrews wrote: > The POST-as-GET mess started because Adam Roach pointed out that the > "orders" URL

Re: [Acme] Allow get for certificates?

2018-10-08 Thread Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
The POST-as-GET mess started because Adam Roach pointed out that the "orders" URL (listing all of an accounts orders), in some non-WebPKI contexts, could expose information that shouldn't be exposed. There are two possible fixes for this: The narrow fix -- Remove "orders." No one implements

Re: [Acme] Allow get for certificates?

2018-10-08 Thread Fossati, Thomas (Nokia - GB/Cambridge, UK)
The 10/08/2018 09:49, Yaron Sheffer wrote: > IMO Richard's proposal is too coarse, in the sense that servers may want to > publish some certificates with GET and others with POST-as-GET. So either > this should not be a server-wide flag, or if it is, it should be augmented > by a per-Order flag

Re: [Acme] Allow get for certificates?

2018-10-08 Thread Yaron Sheffer
IMO Richard's proposal is too coarse, in the sense that servers may want to publish some certificates with GET and others with POST-as-GET. So either this should not be a server-wide flag, or if it is, it should be augmented by a per-Order flag where the client can request what it needs.

Re: [Acme] Allow get for certificates?

2018-10-07 Thread Richard Barnes
I went ahead and posted a PR adding the "meta" field: https://github.com/ietf-wg-acme/acme/pull/462 On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 5:04 AM Thomas Fossati wrote: > The 10/06/2018 17:27, Richard Barnes wrote: > > I'm not hard set against this change, I just don't see much benefit. > > > > Allowing GETs

Re: [Acme] Allow get for certificates?

2018-10-07 Thread Thomas Fossati
The 10/06/2018 17:27, Richard Barnes wrote: > I'm not hard set against this change, I just don't see much benefit. > > Allowing GETs for certificate URLs is so low-risk that we weren't going to > access-control it at all until a couple weeks ago. Now it's so high-risk > that we need to REQUIRE

Re: [Acme] Allow get for certificates?

2018-10-06 Thread Richard Barnes
I'm not hard set against this change, I just don't see much benefit. Allowing GETs for certificate URLs is so low-risk that we weren't going to access-control it at all until a couple weeks ago. Now it's so high-risk that we need to REQUIRE authentication? That's "REQUIRED" in the RFC 2119

Re: [Acme] Allow get for certificates?

2018-10-06 Thread Eric Rescorla
Speaking as Area Director: there is no process problem with this reference. Of course, it's a WG decision whether it's advisable. -Ekr On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 8:31 AM Salz, Rich wrote: > In order to address an issue raised during IESG review, unauthenticated > GET for ACME server resources was