RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-02-04 Thread Dean Wells
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Turin, Vladimir Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 4:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Only reference to Universal Groups in the thread made by me and looks like I didn't make myself clear enough. What I attempted to say

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-02-03 Thread GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)
Message- From: Jorge de Almeida Pinto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Montag, 2. Februar 2004 10:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Hi Guido, I have not tested what you mention. In the example I used I know which objects are the poltergeists and therefore I also know

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-02-03 Thread GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)
domain (which only has an outbound replication agreement to this GC for this NC...). We'll see. /Guido -Original Message- From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dienstag, 3. Februar 2004 06:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Heh. This is getting very

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-02-03 Thread Dean Wells
:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; AD mailing list (Send) Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC FWIW - If I am not mistaken, the KCC removal rate of objects in the GC is actually 500 under Windows 2000. However, I believe that SP4 for Windows 2000 also provides the rapid removal of GC objects

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-02-02 Thread GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)
all DCs back to GC. This is not nice, but I think the only solution! Jorge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eljin B. Brown Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Tony

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-02-02 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 02:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'AD mailing list (Send)' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC DEAN! You rock dude, I love your posts. I like the little /kcc thing below... I had no idea. joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-02-02 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 09:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Jorge, are all of these stale objects in the same (or few) OU(s)? If so, I wonder what would happen, when you now delete these empty

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-02-01 Thread Bernard, Aric
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Wells Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:03 PM To: AD mailing list (Send) Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC I have a former student (a PSS tech.) looking into the very same thing and received a voicemail/email last night outlining

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-31 Thread Dean Wells
: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC I did some tests and looks like method #2 (removelingeringobject) won't work in described case. Apparently MS guys are checking that object is not just lingering - it has to be also created more than

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-30 Thread joe
: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:55 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Oh what an interesting scenario You are an evil person. The fact that you don't have references to the objects in the main domain means they will never automatically get updated since that is all

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-30 Thread Tony Murray
Of joe Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Oh what an interesting scenario You are an evil person. The fact that you don't have references to the objects in the main domain means they will never automatically get updated

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-30 Thread joe
only section and then delete them. joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Murray Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Ouch, that looks nasty. What's funny

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-30 Thread Eljin B. Brown
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Nod. Highly recommend a solution of equal parts perl and adfind. Adfind to well, find, and perl to control flow

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-30 Thread Tony Murray
-Original Message- Wrom: QWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Nod. Highly recommend a solution of equal parts perl and adfind. Adfind to well, find, and perl

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-30 Thread Dean Wells
-- Dean Wells MSEtechnology * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msetechnology.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Murray Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Eljin A quicker

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC (straying slightly OT)

2004-01-30 Thread Tony Murray
Of Dean Wells Sent: Freitag, 30. Januar 2004 19:06 To: AD mailing list (Send) Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC As already pointed out, Jorge is suffering from a read-only lingering object issue. Deletion of such objects in 2000 remains a painful process but is now feasible (earlier versions

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC (straying slightly OT)

2004-01-30 Thread Dean Wells
MSEtechnology * Tel: +1 (954) 501-4307 * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msetechnology.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Murray Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-30 Thread joe
. HTH Deano -- Dean Wells MSEtechnology * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msetechnology.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Murray Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-30 Thread joe
. HTH Deano -- Dean Wells MSEtechnology * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msetechnology.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Murray Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC (straying slightly OT)

2004-01-30 Thread joe
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:28 PM To: AD mailing list (Send) Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC (straying slightly OT) I'm not aware of the motivation behind this decision. It may simply be that they didn't want to empty the partition content (a time consuming process as we know

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC (straying slightly OT)

2004-01-30 Thread joe
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:28 PM To: AD mailing list (Send) Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC (straying slightly OT) I'm not aware of the motivation behind this decision. It may simply be that they didn't want to empty the partition content (a time consuming process as we know

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread Adams, Kenneth W (Ken)
Title: Message Have you tried performing an authoritative restore of DOM_B using a backup from T3? That should restore all objects to the domain and still keep the GCs in sync. Kenneth W. (Ken) Adams, MCSA, MCSE -Original Message-From: Jorge de Almeida Pinto [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
! Regards, JORGE From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adams, Kenneth W (Ken)Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 14:06To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Have you tried performing an authoritative restore of DOM_B using a backup from T3? That shou

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread Roger Seielstad
Inovis Inc. -Original Message-From: Jorge de Almeida Pinto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:17 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Hi, This may seem strange, but the restore of the "lost ob

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
they were never tombstoned (deleted) in the domain partition. Regards, Jorge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger SeielstadSent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 14:22To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Then what you need to do is perform

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread Roger Seielstad
. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message-From: Jorge de Almeida Pinto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:33 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
SeielstadSent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 14:50To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Because they'll have the same GUID, they're really the same object. Since they have higher USNs due to the authoritative restore, they'll be updated with the information from the restore

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
, January 29, 2004 16:10To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC You're right - I was missing that. Can you do an auth restore of the parent (such as an OU)? Not sure if that would do it or not, however. It seems like the issue is what type of garbage/orphan collection

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
, 2004 8:32 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC I tested the situation I described earlier (see below) and the findings are as expected: I restored DOM_B using the backup without the 1 objects. Everything is in sync again. When I do an AD search (in DOM_A or DOM_C

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread Roger Seielstad
Inovis Inc. -Original Message-From: Jorge de Almeida Pinto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:32 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC I tested the situation I described earlier (see below) and the findings

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread Fuller, Stuart
and database maintenance procedures in AD? -Stuart Fuller State of Montana From: Jorge de Almeida Pinto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:32 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC I tested the situation I described earlier (see below

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread Fuller, Stuart
etter than the search engine for Microsoft Premier support. -Stuart From: Fuller, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:20 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC THE FOLLOWING ENVIRONMENT IS AN EXAMPLE: * 1 forest with 3 domains (W2K Na

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Collection process Jorge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: 1/29/2004 6:20 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC THE FOLLOWING ENVIRONMENT IS AN EXAMPLE: * 1 forest with 3 domains (W2K Native Mode) * DOM_A is forest root * DOM_B

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread joe
: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC You restored the entire domain, but didn't mark it authoritative, correct? I wonder if that would have made a difference - again, its just a stab. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread joe
Of Fuller, StuartSent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:46 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC Found an article on the Garbage collection interval -see "The Active Directory Database Garbage Collection Process" http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en

RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC

2004-01-29 Thread joe
ED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Contents of GC This is just a guess, but since this is Win2K, I wonder if forcing a full synchronization of all GCs by adding a new attribute to the PAS would clear this up? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge de Almeida PintoSent