RE: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-23 Thread al_maurer
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Free, Bob Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 2:26 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] account operators Has anyone used shim products like NetIQ DRA? I've used it previously when it was a product from Mission Critical We used it extensively in the NT days when

RE: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-23 Thread joe
: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:35 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] account operators We're using ActiveRoles, too, and I like it a lot. The problem with a proxied account these days is that auditors want to know who did what and being able to pin it down to some service account

RE: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-12 Thread Rick Kingslan
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 12:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] account operators Sorry Rick, I have to correct you on this one. An account operator absolutely has enough rights to mailbox enable a user. AccOps

Re: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-12 Thread Mylo
: RE: [ActiveDir] account operators Sorry Rick, I have to correct you on this one. An account operator absolutely has enough rights to mailbox enable a user. AccOps by default have FC over user objects, they can do ANYTHING to a user they want to. The key is they have to know how to. You could

RE: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-12 Thread Free, Bob
, August 12, 2005 1:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] account operators I remember reading something alluding to this on built-in groups in general... can't remember where (maybe it was joe), but the general principal was that if you utilise any of the built

RE: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-11 Thread Coleman, Hunter
I expect they lack Exchange View Only Admin permissions (or higher). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:27 AM To: activedirectory Subject: [ActiveDir] account operators is there any reason an

RE: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-11 Thread Coleman, Hunter
AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] account operators I thought AO had complete rights to the user object which would include exchange attribs. i guess they still need rights to the store? is that it? thanks On 8/11/05, Coleman, Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I expect

RE: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-11 Thread joe
@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] account operators I thought AO had complete rights to the user object which would include exchange attribs. i guess they still need rights to the store? is that it? thanks On 8/11/05, Coleman, Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I expect they lack Exchange View Only

Re: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-11 Thread Tom Kern
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:57 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] account operators I thought AO had complete rights to the user object which would include exchange attribs. i guess they still need rights to the store

RE: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-11 Thread Rick Kingslan
is created. Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:57 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] account operators I thought AO had complete rights to the user object which would

RE: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-11 Thread Rick Kingslan
@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] account operators i plan on getting rid of it. my question is really for my own knowldge. if homeMDB and mailNickname are parts of a user attrib and AO has full control on that user by default, why can't they set a mailbox via ADUC? I guess ADUC uses CDOEXM? also

Re: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-11 Thread Tom Kern
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:57 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] account operators I thought AO had complete rights to the user object which would include exchange

RE: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-11 Thread Rick Kingslan
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] account operators thats what i thought but then it would make sense that AO group would be able to set that attrib on a user they have full control over. why can't they create a mailbox for a regular user? thanks as always, rick On 8/11/05, Rick Kingslan [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [ActiveDir] account operators

2005-08-11 Thread joe
] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:30 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] account operators why can't they create a mailbox for a regular user? Simply, the Account Operator is designed to work as a principal that allows work on accounts

RE: [ActiveDir] account operators and admins

2004-07-20 Thread Free, Bob
google for adminsdholder From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Creamer, MarkSent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:33 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] account operators and admins Is there a built-in mechanism that keeps account operators from being able

RE: [ActiveDir] account operators and admins

2004-07-20 Thread Creamer, Mark
Thanks Bob, looks like thats whats happening mc From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] account operators and admins google for adminsdholder From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

RE: [ActiveDir] Account Operators can't move users

2002-10-19 Thread Rick Kingslan
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-owner;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of David Adner Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 8:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Account Operators can't move users Well, sorry to raise a fuss, since when I

RE: [ActiveDir] Account Operators can't move users

2002-10-19 Thread Rick Kingslan
technology is indistinguishable from magic. --- Arthur C. Clarke -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-owner;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of David Adner Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 8:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Account Operators

RE: [ActiveDir] Account Operators can't move users

2002-10-18 Thread David Adner
Is delegating required to make this work or just a work-around? I have no problems doing it; I just want to understand this better. Thanks Delegate the rights to them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-owner;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of David Adner Sent:

RE: [ActiveDir] Account Operators can't move users

2002-10-18 Thread Ken Cornetet
We've seen the same thing here. Apparently, anyone in the Account Operators group cannot change anyone else in Account Operators or Administrators, even if they have adequate AD permissions. This happens for any AD modification, not just mailbox moves. -Original Message- From: David

Re: [ActiveDir] Account Operators can't move users

2002-10-18 Thread David Adner
I checked and they do have this permission. Also, they create users in the target OU's with no problems, so wouldn't that indicate they have this permission? The account operators group will need the create user object permission on the OU that they are moving the user to. When you move a

Re: [ActiveDir] Account Operators can't move users

2002-10-18 Thread Tim HInes
The account operators group will need the create user object permission on the OU that they are moving the user to. When you move a user it is creating the user in the OU that you are moving it to. Tim Hines, MCSA, MCSE (2000 NT4) MVP - Active Directory - Original Message - From:

Re: [ActiveDir] Account Operators can't move users

2002-10-18 Thread Tim HInes
What is the exact error that the user receives when he attempts to move a user? Tim Hines, MCSA, MCSE (2000 NT4) MVP - Active Directory - Original Message - From: David Adner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir

Re: [ActiveDir] Account Operators can't move users

2002-10-18 Thread David Adner
Well, sorry to raise a fuss, since when I created a test account, added it to the Account Operators group, and tried moving users, it worked. So I'm going to have to work with the user to figure out exactly what's going on. What is the exact error that the user receives when he attempts to