RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

2005-12-06 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
read/write permission on the useraccountcontrol attribute of the user object.
 
HOWEVER...
the disabled/enabled status of a user object is represented by a bit/flag in 
the useraccountcontrol attribute and that same attribute consists of more 
bits/flags. So if you delegate read/write permission on the useraccountcontrol, 
you delegate control on all of the bits/flags represented in that 
useraccountcontrol attribute. It may not be what you want
 
Cheers,
Jorge

 


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Does anyone know off the top of their head the permissions required for 
delegation of disabling and enabling user accounts, or have a link? Google is 
failing me...or rather me failing google 



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Re: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

2005-12-06 Thread Paul Williams



WP on the user object's userAccountControl 
attribute.



RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

2005-12-06 Thread neil.ruston



... which is exactly why 3rd party vendors offer proxied 
user account admin tools, which can help to address this 
'issue'.

[I am not suggesting that the proxied approach is 'better' 
but simply that it may meet the poster's requirements.]

neil


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Jorge deSent: 06 December 2005 13:44To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate 
disable/enable user accounts


read/write permission on the 
useraccountcontrol attribute of the user object.

HOWEVER...
the disabled/enabled status of a user 
object is represented by a bit/flag in the useraccountcontrol attribute and that 
same attribute consists of more bits/flags. So if you delegate read/write 
permission on the useraccountcontrol, you delegate control on all of the 
bits/flags represented in that useraccountcontrol attribute. It may not be what 
you want

Cheers,
Jorge




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RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

2005-12-06 Thread Douglas M. Long








WP? Write permissions? Is that all the
group would need?











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WP on the user object's userAccountControl attribute.
















RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

2005-12-06 Thread Douglas M. Long
Man, read/write to  useraccountcontrol seems to enable  a user to delete a
mailbox too.

 

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Jorge de
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

 

read/write permission on the useraccountcontrol attribute of the user
object.

 

HOWEVER...

the disabled/enabled status of a user object is represented by a bit/flag in
the useraccountcontrol attribute and that same attribute consists of more
bits/flags. So if you delegate read/write permission on the
useraccountcontrol, you delegate control on all of the bits/flags
represented in that useraccountcontrol attribute. It may not be what you
want

 

Cheers,

Jorge


 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

2005-12-06 Thread Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
No, useraccountcontrol mainly holds the fields you see in the checkboxes of
the account tab, such as logon with smardcard, must not change password
a.s.o.

 

You can not delegate deletion of mailboxes in AD only, you also need to give
rights in the exchange store as well.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:09 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

 

Man, read/write to  useraccountcontrol seems to enable  a user to delete a
mailbox too.

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto,
Jorge de
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 8:44 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

 

read/write permission on the useraccountcontrol attribute of the user
object.

 

HOWEVER...

the disabled/enabled status of a user object is represented by a bit/flag in
the useraccountcontrol attribute and that same attribute consists of more
bits/flags. So if you delegate read/write permission on the
useraccountcontrol, you delegate control on all of the bits/flags
represented in that useraccountcontrol attribute. It may not be what you
want

 

Cheers,

Jorge


 

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Does anyone know off the top of their head the permissions required for
delegation of disabling and enabling user accounts, or have a link? Google
is failing me...or rather me failing google 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

2005-12-06 Thread Douglas M. Long
Hmmm, is there the possibility that permissions are granted before even
clicking Finish in the delegation wizard? The reason I ask is because I
created a test user, started clicking on perms in the delegation wizard just
to see what happened (without clicking on the Finish buttion), then clicked
the back button, cancelled, and started the wizard again. When I started the
wizard again, I instead put a group which I then made that same user a
member of, then delegated them just the RW on useraccountcontrol. After I
found out that I was able to delete a mailbox in that OU, I thought I had
better check the effective permissions. The user had all kinds of
permissions. I then added another new user to the group that had been
delegated rights and that user only had the specific rights that it should
have. 

 

Does this sound bogus?

 

 

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From: Douglas M. Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:09 AM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

 

Man, read/write to  useraccountcontrol seems to enable  a user to delete a
mailbox too.

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto,
Jorge de
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 8:44 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

 

read/write permission on the useraccountcontrol attribute of the user
object.

 

HOWEVER...

the disabled/enabled status of a user object is represented by a bit/flag in
the useraccountcontrol attribute and that same attribute consists of more
bits/flags. So if you delegate read/write permission on the
useraccountcontrol, you delegate control on all of the bits/flags
represented in that useraccountcontrol attribute. It may not be what you
want

 

Cheers,

Jorge


 

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is failing me...or rather me failing google 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

2005-12-06 Thread joe



I agree that you can't delete mailboxes with WP to 
userAccountControl. However you don't need store access to delete mailboxes, or 
more accurately to disconnect them. You do need store access (admin rights on 
the Exchange server) to purge a mailbox. 

To delegate deletion of mailboxes you simply delegate WP to 
the list of all Exchange attributes that can be applied to a user object. While 
the GUI/CDOEXM may give you crap about it a simple LDAP write will work (which 
is what ExchMbx uses for the -clear option). 

You also don't need store or Exchange Admin (any level 
rights) to create a mailbox, having access to about 2 attributes in AD is all 
that is required. But again, GUI/CDOEXM will complain. The next version of 
ExchMbx should have that functionality implemented to work with only those two 
attributes being delegated. 



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Simon-WeidnerSent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:27 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate 
disable/enable user accounts


No, useraccountcontrol 
mainly holds the fields you see in the checkboxes of the account tab, such as 
logon with smardcard, must not change password a.s.o.

You can not delegate 
deletion of mailboxes in AD only, you also need to give rights in the exchange 
store as well.


Gruesse - Sincerely, 
Ulf B. Simon-Weidner 
 MVP-Book "Windows XP - Die 
Expertentipps": http://tinyurl.com/44zcz Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner Website: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org Profile:http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile="">




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. 
LongSent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:09 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate 
disable/enable user accounts

Man, read/write 
to useraccountcontrol seems to enable a user to delete a mailbox 
too.





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, 
Jorge deSent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 8:44 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate 
disable/enable user accounts



read/write permission 
on the useraccountcontrol attribute of the user object.



HOWEVER...

the disabled/enabled status of a 
user object is represented by a bit/flag in the useraccountcontrol attribute and 
that same attribute consists of more bits/flags. So if you delegate read/write 
permission on the useraccountcontrol, you delegate control on all of the 
bits/flags represented in that useraccountcontrol attribute. It may not be what 
you want



Cheers,

Jorge







Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
namens Douglas M. LongVerzonden: di 6-12-2005 14:19Aan: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgOnderwerp: [ActiveDir] Delegate 
disable/enable user accounts

Does anyone know off 
the top of their head the permissions required for delegation of disabling and 
enabling user accounts, or have a link? Google is failing meor rather me 
failing google 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate disable/enable user accounts

2005-12-06 Thread joe



Yep WP on userAccountControl. But again, the caveats others 
have mentioned, it gives the person ability to modify quite a bit on an 
account.




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. 
LongSent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:08 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Delegate 
disable/enable user accounts


WP? Write permissions? 
Is that all the group would need?





From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Paul 
WilliamsSent: Tuesday, 
December 06, 2005 8:48 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Delegate 
disable/enable user accounts


WP on the user object's 
userAccountControl attribute.