Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP
Ok I give up as well, why is it called the 'Common' Bush Cricket in parts of Europe? Vic - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP There may be some very clever entomologically, taxonomically intriguing reason why it is called sickle bearing but I assumed it was because its final abdominal segment was curved like a sickle. But assumption can be a dangerous thing...any more academic reasons very welcome!! See pics of the sickle shaped abdominal segment on the RX wildlife site http://rxwildlife.org.uk/2006/08/11/sickle-bearing-bush-cricket/ Cheers Henri From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LindaSent: 18 August 2006 12:01To: Adastra discussion groupSubject: Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP Hi all-I'll give in & ask the question thats bothering me, in the hope that someone has the (probably simple) answer, so that I can get the animal fixed in my mind... why 'sickle?' which bit of the animal does it refer to?many thanks-Lin. On 8/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone, Here are some interesting comments from John Paul, our County Otrthoptera Recorder on the Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings including tips on where to look for more. ___Adastra mailing listAdastra@lists.sxbrc.org.ukhttp://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastrahttp://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra-archives Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.9/417 - Release Date: 11-08-06 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 18-08-06 ___ Adastra mailing list Adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra-archives
Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP
Many thanks all- I'd had a surf on the net, but wasn't able to find any pictures with sufficient detail. Henris' photo link shows a very clear picture- I notice that although many Bush crickets have a large, more or less curved ovipositor, this particular one also appears broad and flattened, and thus more sickle-like. i think if i bump into one, I shall have a fair chance of recognising her. thanks again- Lin.On 8/18/06, Patrick Roper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think it unquestionably refers to the tail of the beast. The specific name 'falcata' means 'sickle-shaped' and derives from the Latin 'falx' which means, surprise, surprise, 'a sickle'. As well as the female, the male has a small sickle-shaped appendage (ovipositor envy?) – see here: http://www.david.element.ukgateway.net/grasshoppersandcrickets14sickle-bearingbushcrickets1_files/image008.jpg Patrick Roper From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2006 12:35 To: adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk Subject: Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP There may be some very clever entomologically, taxonomically intriguing reason why it is called sickle bearing but I assumed it was because its final abdominal segment was curved like a sickle. But assumption can be a dangerous thing...any more academic reasons very welcome!! See pics of the sickle shaped abdominal segment on the RX wildlife site http://rxwildlife.org.uk/2006/08/11/sickle-bearing-bush-cricket/ Cheers Henri From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Linda Sent: 18 August 2006 12:01 To: Adastra discussion group Subject: Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP Hi all- I'll give in & ask the question thats bothering me, in the hope that someone has the (probably simple) answer, so that I can get the animal fixed in my mind... why 'sickle?' which bit of the animal does it refer to? many thanks- Lin. On 8/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone, Here are some interesting comments from John Paul, our County Otrthoptera Recorder on the Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings including tips on where to look for more. ___ Adastra mailing list Adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra-archives
Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP
I think it unquestionably refers to the tail of the beast. The specific name ‘falcata’ means ‘sickle-shaped’ and derives from the Latin ‘falx’ which means, surprise, surprise, ‘a sickle’. As well as the female, the male has a small sickle-shaped appendage (ovipositor envy?) – see here: http://www.david.element.ukgateway.net/grasshoppersandcrickets14sickle-bearingbushcrickets1_files/image008.jpg Patrick Roper From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2006 12:35 To: adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk Subject: Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP There may be some very clever entomologically, taxonomically intriguing reason why it is called sickle bearing but I assumed it was because its final abdominal segment was curved like a sickle. But assumption can be a dangerous thing...any more academic reasons very welcome!! See pics of the sickle shaped abdominal segment on the RX wildlife site http://rxwildlife.org.uk/2006/08/11/sickle-bearing-bush-cricket/ Cheers Henri From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Sent: 18 August 2006 12:01 To: Adastra discussion group Subject: Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP Hi all- I'll give in & ask the question thats bothering me, in the hope that someone has the (probably simple) answer, so that I can get the animal fixed in my mind... why 'sickle?' which bit of the animal does it refer to? many thanks- Lin. On 8/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone, Here are some interesting comments from John Paul, our County Otrthoptera Recorder on the Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings including tips on where to look for more. ___ Adastra mailing list Adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra-archives
Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP
I’d hazard a guess that it’s something to do with the sickle-shaped ovipositor…? Charles -- Charles Roper - Biodiversity IT Officer Sussex Biodiversity Record Centre Tel: 01273 497554 Web: www.sxbrc.org.uk From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Sent: 18 August 2006 12:01 To: Adastra discussion group Subject: Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP Hi all- I'll give in & ask the question thats bothering me, in the hope that someone has the (probably simple) answer, so that I can get the animal fixed in my mind... why 'sickle?' which bit of the animal does it refer to? many thanks- Lin. On 8/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone, Here are some interesting comments from John Paul, our County Otrthoptera Recorder on the Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings including tips on where to look for more. ___ Adastra mailing list Adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra-archives
Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP
There may be some very clever entomologically, taxonomically intriguing reason why it is called sickle bearing but I assumed it was because its final abdominal segment was curved like a sickle. But assumption can be a dangerous thing...any more academic reasons very welcome!! See pics of the sickle shaped abdominal segment on the RX wildlife site http://rxwildlife.org.uk/2006/08/11/sickle-bearing-bush-cricket/ Cheers Henri From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LindaSent: 18 August 2006 12:01To: Adastra discussion groupSubject: Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP Hi all-I'll give in & ask the question thats bothering me, in the hope that someone has the (probably simple) answer, so that I can get the animal fixed in my mind... why 'sickle?' which bit of the animal does it refer to?many thanks-Lin. On 8/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone, Here are some interesting comments from John Paul, our County Otrthoptera Recorder on the Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings including tips on where to look for more. ___ Adastra mailing list Adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra-archives
Re: [Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP
Hi all- I'll give in & ask the question thats bothering me, in the hope that someone has the (probably simple) answer, so that I can get the animal fixed in my mind... why 'sickle?' which bit of the animal does it refer to? many thanks- Lin.On 8/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone, Here are some interesting comments from John Paul, our County Otrthoptera Recorder on the Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings including tips on where to look for more. ___ Adastra mailing list Adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra-archives
[Adastra] Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP
Title: Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings CP Hi everyone, Here are some interesting comments from John Paul, our County Otrthoptera Recorder on the Phaneroptera falcata at Hastings including tips on where to look for more. "New Orthoptera don't appear often so I still say this is the find of the decade. I compared the female I kept with my Ragge-determined reference specimens of European phaneropterines and it is clearly P.falcata. I had a skim through the continental literature last night. There is plenty of work on the biology, especially from Germany by Ingrisch, Detzel and others. Unlike most bush-crickets in our area the eggs hatch after just one winter. The embryonic development of the eggs is dependant on temperature and this seems to be an important determinant of geographical distribution. In Germany it is common in the south and peters out in the north. The Dutch atlas shows that it has moved into SE Holland in the last 10 years or so. I have found it with ease near Le Havre at the base of a warm cliff along with Platycleis albopunctata, Conocephalus discolor, Oecanthus pellucens and G.rufus so I would guess our south coast is about the edge of its possible range and that its best chance is to follow our other temperature-challenges spp like Glanville fritillaries, Drypta dentata and Platycleis albopunctata to sun traps on the undercliffs. Further south in Europe I have found it in bog-standard open scrub or in forest clearings. In the far south P.nana replaces it and in S.Spain and Africa the related P.sparsa occurs. Nymphs and adults feed on many herbacious plants (chamomiles, nettles etc. and samll flies - but no mention of rose-bay willowherb). They like to select spots between 0.5 and 1 metre from the ground. The females insert eggs into the leaves of shrubs and trees, however, including Prunus, Quercus, Rubus etc. So it needs sunny herbacious spots with a bit of woody scrub (Refs Ingrisch, Detzel, Kleukers) Old records are 2 from Cornwall (in Dale and Lucas) and a later one from Seatown, Dorset (Fraser in Kevan). I've been to all 3 sites with no luck! Hope this helps with clues to understanding how it got to Hastings and where to look for more." John Paul ___ Adastra mailing list Adastra@lists.sxbrc.org.uk http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra http://lists.sxbrc.org.uk/adastra-archives
