Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-11 Thread Silvia Hagen
Hi all I support this proposal +1 From my background as Chair of the Swiss IPv6 Council and many years of working with large organizations such as enterprises and governments, I know that basing an allocation size on number of users and size of network is not sufficient and does not allow

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-02 New Policy Proposal (Keep IPv6 PI When Requesting IPv6 Allocation)

2015-05-11 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Marco Schmidt mschm...@ripe.net wrote: Dear colleagues, A proposed change to RIPE Document IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy is now available for discussion. You can find the full proposal at:

Re: [address-policy-wg] mesh / community networks? 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-11 Thread William Waites
Hi Vesna! Nice to hear from you. You say that this is about governmental networks but that is not actually mentioned in the proposal itself. If you are correct then the proposal should be changed to explicitly mention that. If you are not correct then this just leaves more discretion to RIPE,

Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

2015-05-11 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Infinity Telecom SRL i...@infinitytelecom.ro wrote: Hello, This is the question: Could any of you have your company survive with only a /22 (and 10-15 $/IP extra, 256/512/1024 packs towards 15$/IP) ? Ok, I'll bite, as you seem to have a hangup about

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-11 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Marco Schmidt mschm...@ripe.net wrote: Dear colleagues, A proposed change to the RIPE Document IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy now is open for discussion. The proposal aims to expand the criteria for evaluating initial IPv6 allocations larger

Re: [address-policy-wg] mesh / community networks? 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-11 Thread Mathew Newton
Hi William, -Original Message- From: address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-boun...@ripe.net] On Behalf Of William Waites Sent: 11 May 2015 09:20 You say that this is about governmental networks but that is not actually mentioned in the proposal itself. If you are correct

[address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-05-11 Thread Marco Schmidt
Dear colleagues, The draft document for the proposal described in 2015-01, Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations has been published. The impact analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published. You can find the full proposal and the impact analysis

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-05-11 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Marco Schmidt mschm...@ripe.net wrote: You can find the full proposal and the impact analysis at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2015-01 and the draft document at:

[address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-05-11 Thread herve.clement
+1 -Message d'origine- De : address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-boun...@ripe.net] De la part de Andre Keller Envoyé : lundi 11 mai 2015 15:31 À : address-policy-wg@ripe.net Objet : Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of

Re: [address-policy-wg] address-policy-wg Digest, Vol 45, Issue 8

2015-05-11 Thread Callum Stuart
Someone has made the comments on this article from ripe labs. Any comments from the community? How can this kind of thing happen in the ripe? Prior to the ripe depletion, it is even hard for my org to apply for a /19. Now my org can only apply for a /22! So as to keep low profile to have

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-11 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Gert Doering g...@space.net wrote: Slightly off-track, but you made me curious. Given the number of /29s and /32s available in FP001, and the potential numbers of LIRs in the future (like, things explode and we'll see 100.000 LIRs) - where do you see the

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-05-11 Thread Andre Keller
Hi, On 11.05.2015 13:43, Marco Schmidt wrote: We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to address-policy-wg@ripe.net before 9 June 2015. I support this proposal. I do not think that this will have a big impact, but it certainly brings the policy in alignment with the

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-05-11 Thread Christopher Kunz
Am 11.05.15 um 13:43 schrieb Marco Schmidt: Dear colleagues, The draft document for the proposal described in 2015-01, Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations has been published. The impact analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published.

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-11 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 11 May 2015, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: As Nick states, I'd be interested to see a real life addressing plan which needed more than this amount of bit space. I'd actually be interested to see a real life addressing plan that needed a /32 bit address space, where the need isn't constructed

Re: [address-policy-wg] [policy-announce] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-05-11 Thread Sebastian Wiesinger
* Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com [2015-05-11 16:33]: On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Marco Schmidt mschm...@ripe.net wrote: The draft document for the proposal described in 2015-01, Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations has been published. Strongest

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-11 Thread Mathew Newton
Hi Nick, -Original Message- From: address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-boun...@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Nick Hilliard Sent: 11 May 2015 14:08 On 11/05/2015 11:10, Gert Doering wrote: I see /32 as default, up to /29 if you ask as very reasonable middle ground... /29

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-05-11 Thread Sascha Luck [ml]
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 08:14:24PM +0200, Elvis Daniel Velea wrote: This has already happened before (remember 2007-01?) and it happens with every change of policy.. 2007-01 is a good example of why ex post facto changes are a bad idea. This was controversial then and is still controversial

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-05-11 Thread Sergey Stecenko
Hi all! I don't understand true reasons of this proposal creation. Let's think together. If it was created to interrupt exhaustion of IPv4 blocks, I want retort: today, 11.05.2015 have been allocated 6392 IPv4 from last /8 (last block is 185.99.220.0/22, 256/4=64, 64*99=6336, 6336+224/4=6392)

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-05-11 Thread Sergey Stecenko
Hi all! I don't understand true reasons of this proposal creation. Let's think together. If it was created to interrupt exhaustion of IPv4 blocks, I want retort: today, 11.05.2015 have been allocated 6392 IPv4 from last /8 Last block is 185.99.220.0/22, 256/4=64, 64*99=6336, 6336+224/4=6392 If

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-05-11 Thread Sergey Stecenko
Exuse me about two same emails. It was bag in my client 2015-05-11 23:22 GMT+03:00, Sergey Stecenko stecenkos...@gmail.com: Hi all! I don't understand true reasons of this proposal creation. Let's think together. If it was created to interrupt exhaustion of IPv4 blocks, I want retort:

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-05-11 Thread Sascha Luck [ml]
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 09:32:19PM +0200, Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN wrote: This is borderline to bad faith. ISTR you not being very happy about being accused on this list, so I would thank you very much, indeed, not to accuse me of acting in bad faith. Yours sincerely, Sascha Luck

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-05-11 Thread Elvis Daniel Velea
Hi Sacha, On 11/05/15 19:00, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote: In light of this, I will oppose this proposal. For what that will turn out to be worth. if I understand correctly, you are opposing to the RIPE NCC's planned implementation of this proposal (under the terms and understanding of this Impact

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-05-11 Thread Richard Hartmann
That potential two years grace period is an invitation to all IP grabbers to grab more. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity.