Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-27 Thread Enno Rey
All, I'd like to strongly support the proposal as well. To be fully honest here I've not yet encountered a single adress planning exercise where we (which included organizations with +300K users and 700K IP addresses in their IPAM database) didn't easily get along with a /32. I hence initially

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-22 Thread Mathew Newton
-Original Message- From: address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-boun...@ripe.net] On Behalf Of john.coll...@bit.admin.ch Sent: 22 May 2015 10:46 Organisations may qualify for an initial allocation greater than /29 by submitting documentation that reasonably justifies the

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-13 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Roger Jørgensen rog...@gmail.com wrote: Are work being done in several forums on interplanetary communication, both with thoughts on delay and on address space. AFAIK some of it is already in production to using IPv6... wish my memory worked today so I could

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-13 Thread Mathew Newton
Dear WG, As one of the authors behind 2015-03 please accept my apologies for not being able to attend today's AP WG session, and a particularly apology (and thanks!) to Alexander for letting him have to take the virtual stage and face the questions by himself! I would like to respond to a

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-12 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 03:18:15PM +0200, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: And that's actually something we need to keep in mind when setting policy today. Actually, I am (and I'm having an wary eye on the community :-) ). But I *do* the math. We're inside the very first /12 ever assigned to the

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-12 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Sascha Luck [ml] a...@c4inet.net wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 03:58:46PM +0200, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: As Nick states, I'd be interested to see a real life addressing plan which needed more than this amount of bit space. I'd actually be interested to see a

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-12 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Sascha Luck [ml] a...@c4inet.net wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 01:28:39PM +0200, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: Apparently, my point was not very reader friendly, so I'll try again: Routing-wise, someone with 64 billion billion billion addresses, have about 16

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-12 Thread Sascha Luck [ml]
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 01:28:39PM +0200, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: Apparently, my point was not very reader friendly, so I'll try again: Routing-wise, someone with 64 billion billion billion addresses, have about 16 billion billion ways to route the entire IPv4 internet, within the address space

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-12 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Tim Chown t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: We’re to date only allocating from 1/8th of the overall IPv6 address space. Which is actually an immensely huge part of it. There’s 7/8ths remaining in which policy can be changed, if required. Yes, fortunately.

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-12 Thread Sascha Luck [ml]
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 03:09:16PM +0200, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: Well, yes, that's why I first wrote This change makes sense ??? I support it. -- Jan Oh yes, so you did. Should have read further up in the thread... cheers, Sascha Luck

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-12 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Mathew Newton mathew.newton...@official.mod.uk wrote: Hi Jan, Hi again, Matthew, and thanks for answering. -Original Message- From: address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-boun...@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Jan Ingvoldstad Sent: 12 May 2015

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-12 Thread Mathew Newton
-Original Message- From: address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-boun...@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Jan Ingvoldstad Sent: 12 May 2015 14:18 Hi again, Matthew, and thanks for answering. No problem at all - it is good to have this sort of open discussion and whilst it risks drifting

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-12 Thread Tim Chown
Hi, On 12 May 2015, at 14:18, Jan Ingvoldstad frett...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Mathew Newton mathew.newton...@official.mod.uk mailto:mathew.newton...@official.mod.uk wrote: Hi Jan, Hi again, Matthew, and thanks for answering. -Original Message-

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-11 Thread Silvia Hagen
An: Address Policy Working Group Betreff: Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size) On 28 April 2015 at 13:00, Marco Schmidt mschm...@ripe.net wrote: The proposal aims to expand the criteria for evaluating initial IPv6

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-11 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Marco Schmidt mschm...@ripe.net wrote: Dear colleagues, A proposed change to the RIPE Document IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy now is open for discussion. The proposal aims to expand the criteria for evaluating initial IPv6 allocations larger

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-11 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Gert Doering g...@space.net wrote: Slightly off-track, but you made me curious. Given the number of /29s and /32s available in FP001, and the potential numbers of LIRs in the future (like, things explode and we'll see 100.000 LIRs) - where do you see the

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-11 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 11 May 2015, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: As Nick states, I'd be interested to see a real life addressing plan which needed more than this amount of bit space. I'd actually be interested to see a real life addressing plan that needed a /32 bit address space, where the need isn't constructed

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-11 Thread Mathew Newton
Hi Nick, -Original Message- From: address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-boun...@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Nick Hilliard Sent: 11 May 2015 14:08 On 11/05/2015 11:10, Gert Doering wrote: I see /32 as default, up to /29 if you ask as very reasonable middle ground... /29

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-05-08 Thread Carlos Friacas
+1 support. Best Regards, Carlos Friaças On Thu, 7 May 2015, Carlos Gómez Muñoz wrote: Dear all, We, seap.es, the LIR requesting IPv6 space for the government authorities in Spain, are facing the same problem as Switzerland. Therefore, I support the proposed policy change. Best

[address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-04-28 Thread Marco Schmidt
Dear colleagues, A proposed change to the RIPE Document IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy now is open for discussion. The proposal aims to expand the criteria for evaluating initial IPv6 allocations larger than a /29. The RIPE NCC would consider additional aspects beyond only the

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-03 New Policy Proposal (Assessment Criteria for IPv6 Initial Allocation Size)

2015-04-28 Thread Sascha Luck [ml]
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 02:00:40PM +0200, Marco Schmidt wrote: The proposal aims to expand the criteria for evaluating initial IPv6 allocations larger than a /29. The RIPE NCC would consider additional aspects beyond only the number of existing users and extent of the organisation's