Re: Verify management class usage on an AIX TSM client

2010-10-20 Thread Remco Post
Hi, try something with 'dsmc query backup -ina' you'll find the mc info included in the output. This is usually really fast. As Wanda said, the client is the right tool for this. On 19 okt 2010, at 16:48, Moyer, Joni M wrote: Hi Everyone, How can I verify that a particular management

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Remco Post
Hi Zoltan, even with devtype file, using pre-formatted volumes is recommended. On 19 okt 2010, at 21:41, Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote: Neil, Thanks for the info. I have passed this on to my SAN guys since I know nothing about this aspect of the configuration nor if we can make these tweaks.

Objects Assigned in Backup Summary

2010-10-20 Thread garymcs
Helpfully, IBM just published a better explanation, see IC70785 here: http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IC70785myns=swgtivmynp=OCSSGSG7mync=E +-- |This was sent by g.mcstrav...@bathspa.ac.uk via Backup Central.

EMERGENCY:output of activity log prior to initialization?

2010-10-20 Thread Moyer, Joni M
Hi Everyone, Does anyone know where the output of the activity log goes prior to initialization? I'm trying to get TSM to come up and it's still not completed initialization, so I'd like to see what's in the activity log to see how far it's progressing. This is for a TSM AIX 5.5.4.1 server.

Re: EMERGENCY:output of activity log prior to initialization?

2010-10-20 Thread Richard Sims
The Activity Log is in the TSM database. During bring-up, TSM does a lot of reconciliation with the library, which can take considerable time. Use the 'monitor' command in AIX to observe database disk activity for a sense of progress. If necessary, you can launch TSM in the foreground, rather

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Huh? Please explain further. I thought the whole idea was you didn't need to pre-create volumesthey are automatically created and deleted as needed? From: Remco Post r.p...@plcs.nl To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 10/20/2010 02:04 AM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1

Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Markus Engelhard
Hi Zoltan, my experience has been: use fixed size preformatted volumes, and be sure to format them sequentially, even if it seems to take a hell of a time. But then, it´s a one-time action and highly automated, so just don´t try to boost performance here. Make sure no one else is bogging perfs,

Re: TDP for Exchange 6.1.2

2010-10-20 Thread Adrian Compton
Hi Del, Thanks for your great help to date. I can now backup, restore full Database using TDP, and restore a single mailbox using Exchange Powershell commands. What still gives errors is the Mailbox restore from the GUI. I get an ACN5060E error and its quite misleading. The Database restores

Re: TDP for Exchange 6.1.2

2010-10-20 Thread Del Hoobler
Hi Adrian, Exchange 2010 is fairly new and just starting to roll out. DP/Exchange Mailbox Restore (IMR) is also fairly new. With both of them being fairly new, there are not very many google hits yet. For this problem below, there isn't much to go by here. I recommend placing a call with IBM

Re: EMERGENCY:output of activity log prior to initialization?

2010-10-20 Thread Remco Post
If all else fails, run dsmserv in the foreground without the quiet option... -- Gr., Remco On 20 okt. 2010, at 14:38, Moyer, Joni M joni.mo...@highmark.com wrote: Hi Everyone, Does anyone know where the output of the activity log goes prior to initialization? I'm trying to get TSM to

Re: rotating private tapes into/out of 3584 manually

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Arbogast
My thanks to all who shared their advice. It has been an outpouring of knowledge and experience. Best wishes, Keith

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Thanks for the affirmation. This is what I have been seeing/experiencing. As soon as I can empty the stgpool (5TB), I will define fixed volumes and see how much difference that makes. I am aware of the issue of single-threading the define/formats to not fragment them, however I wonder how

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Paul Zarnowski
How you connect to the disk storage (i.e., SCSI or SAN) doesn't matter. This goes more to the issue of how blocks within the volumes are laid out on the spindles. formatting them one at a time will cause the blocks to be laid out in a more sequential fashion, so that when TSM references the

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Hart, Charles A
Dumb statement, but isn't the whole Idea of the File Devclass is it is sequential. Can one be more sequential than the other? If its not then its random. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Zarnowski Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Paul Zarnowski
I/O to devclass file volumes will be inherently sequential, yes. It's not an absolute, however. There are varying degrees of sequentialness. Think about it this way. When you are writing these volumes, they will definitely be purely sequential. However, when reading them, they may or may

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Remco Post
On 20 okt 2010, at 20:11, Hart, Charles A wrote: Dumb statement, but isn't the whole Idea of the File Devclass is it is sequential. Can one be more sequential than the other? If its not then its random. It is. But, if the blocks that make up a devtype file volume are scattered all over

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Richard Rhodes
This can get complicated. File devices, as Paul states, are mostly accessed sequentially. But, as has been also said, the actual file volumes may be fragmented on the filesystem, resulting is effective random access. But, also, TSM may/probably will be accessing multiple file devices

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Paul Zarnowski
yes, this can get complicated... Yes, multiple threads accessing different volumes on the same spindles can create head contention, even with volumes formatted serially. But I think you can still reap benefits from laying down blocks sequentially on the filesystem. Remco points out

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Remco Post
Hmmm, that's interesting, jfs2 read-ahead. I know it exists, but recent TSM servers by default use direct I/O on jfs2, bypassing the buffer cache, and I assume the read-ahead as well... Or am I wrong? I noticed that on an XIV, dd can read a TSM diskpool volume at say 100 MB/s, and yes two dd

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Paul Zarnowski
Hmm... I thought perhaps the Performance Tuning Guide would help clarify, which is where I thought I read this. But it seems somewhat ambiguous. Here are some snippets (for AIX): When AIX detects sequential file reading is occurring, it can read ahead even though the application has not yet

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Remco Post
Hi, I guess (just guess) that the performance tuning guide has been updated to reflect the fact that we can no longer disable directio (in a supported manner) on jfs2 in recent TSM releases, but that the update could have been a bit more clearly. In the past, of course, the guide had to

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread robert_clark
I like to divide the disk storage pool space into at least two file systems, on at least two volume groups. This provides a few benefits: First, you can set the two file systems up with different configs, and compare the performance of the two in production. Second, if it comes time to get

Re: Lousy performance on new 6.2.1.1 server with SAN/FILEDEVCLASS storage

2010-10-20 Thread Dave Canan
Being as our group in IBM is at least partially responsible for having written parts of the performance and tuning guide, let me make some clarifications here. I agree that some of this has not been placed yet into the Performance and Tuning Guide; we will be doing this hopefully early next year.

Re: EMERGENCY:output of activity log prior to initialization?

2010-10-20 Thread Roger Deschner
Start it with dsmserv /whatever/some.file and then tail -f /whatever/some.file I have found this necessary in order to find startup problems. The TSM Activity Log is often not started soon enough to catch all error messages, especially those relevant to the server not starting at all. But they