Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-15 Thread Stephan Boldt
Justino, sounds like my robocopy suggestion. ...just that you use TSM instead of the robocopy tool. ;-) I suppose this is the best solution if your boss told you to do do the migration the professional way with TSM and not with some free of charge tools. :-) But you could use robocopy to check

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-12 Thread Kelly Lipp
If you assume a file create rate of about 100,000/hour then you are looking at a 20 hour restore if all else goes well. You might squeeze more file creates out of your new server, but who really knows? If you assume a 200 GB/hour transfer rate and use image instead, you can cut the restore

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-12 Thread Nicholas Rodolfich
Well, it turns out that the client has no downtime for this system so I don't think the image thing is an option. Not to mention one of the admins installed the LVSA code through the GUI setup wizard the night before and chose to reboot later and the system crashed with a bugcheck for TSMLVSA.sys

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-12 Thread Dwight Cook
I've seen restores of 1+M files take days due to the delays associated with general system over head (creating directory entries, etc...) and by days I mean 5-7+. And so again, I'll mention... Just because you CAN put a million or more files on a single drive doesn't mean it's a good idea!

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-12 Thread Kelly Lipp
Amen to Dwight's comment! And can you imagine a filespace with 10M files? I shudder... Kelly Lipp CTO STORServer, Inc. 485-B Elkton Drive Colorado Springs, CO 80907 719-266-8777 x7105 www.storserver.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-12 Thread Orville Lantto
The only practical way to do this is via replication. I believe there are some products out there for Windows and Linux that are software based. Just set it up, wait for it to finish. Verify it is fully synched and cut over to the new replica. Orville Lantto -Original Message- From:

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-12 Thread Fred Johanson
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Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-12 Thread Kelly Lipp
AH. Kelly Lipp CTO STORServer, Inc. 485-B Elkton Drive Colorado Springs, CO 80907 719-266-8777 x7105 www.storserver.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Fred Johanson Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:34 AM To:

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-12 Thread Remco Post
On Dec 12, 2008, at 17:46 , Kelly Lipp wrote: If you assume a file create rate of about 100,000/hour then you are looking at a 20 hour restore if all else goes well. You might squeeze more file creates out of your new server, but who really knows? If you assume a 200 GB/hour transfer rate and

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-12 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
Again this is not a TSM solution, but we use an EMC product to duplicate disks. As long as both disks are available to the system at the same time take a look at OpenMigrater if you have access to EMC software. It does a block level copy while the system is up. When it is done it keeps the

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-12 Thread Strand, Neil B.
You could attach forty 7 port USB hubs each with 8GB thumb drives in a 10d:1p RAID 5 configuration and simply copy the data. :-))) Cheers, Neil Strand Storage Engineer - Legg Mason Baltimore, MD. (410) 580-7491 Whatever you can do or believe you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-12 Thread Costa, Justino
What about an incremental or asynchronous restore (or whatever we may want to call it)... The file space may have 2TB but how much of it is changing every day ? 5%, 10 %, 15% ? I Would try the following: 1) copy the dsm.opt file to the target machine 2) target machine only: Issue a

Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-11 Thread Nicholas Rodolfich
Hello All, I have a client that needs to move a 2Tb volume on their Windows file server. Their TSM sever is also on Windows w/TSM v5.3.4. What is the fastest/best way to accomplish this. We tested an archive but it only got 340Gb overnight. They don't have enough disk based pool space to land it

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-11 Thread Richard Sims
On the face of it, this sounds like a job for Image backup. Richard Sims

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-11 Thread Richard Rhodes
What kinid of data is it: static files that don't change much (stuff), database, lots of files being created/deleted. Rick Nicholas Rodolfich nrodolf...@cmaon To THEWEB.COM

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-11 Thread Schneider, Jim
We installed storage agents on two unix servers that have weekly 2TB archives. Each archive takes about 6.5 hours. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Nicholas Rodolfich Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:36 PM To:

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-11 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:35:35 -0600, Nicholas Rodolfich nrodolf...@cmaontheweb.com said: I have a client that needs to move a 2Tb volume on their Windows file server. Their TSM sever is also on Windows w/TSM v5.3.4. What is the fastest/best way to accomplish this. We tested an archive but

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-11 Thread Schaub, Steve
Nicholas, If all your client needs to do is get the data from point A to B, I wouldn't even use TSM. Tell your Windows engineers to use the built in robocopy utility and go direct. This is how we migrated 4TB of user data from old to new fileservers. Not only do you avoid wasting TSM resources,

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-11 Thread Dwight Cook
Is it lots of little files (I know, silly question with it being a windows file server). Also, how long is over night? Is that compressed client data or is it file space data? Is that a backup or archive? What is your network? 100 Mb/sec fast Ethernet? Gig Ethernet? Teamed NIC's? I'd run

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-11 Thread Kelly Lipp
How about an image backup? Eliminate the small file issues on backup and restore... Kelly Lipp CTO STORServer, Inc. 485-B Elkton Drive Colorado Springs, CO 80907 719-266-8777 x7105 www.storserver.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-11 Thread Dwight Cook
That will limit you to a single session performing an image backup (won't it??? I don't use image backup) Windows clients have become better at pumping data but lately but a single session still won't come near maxing out a NIC. We have some multiple TB SAP data bases on windows servers (I

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-11 Thread Kelly Lipp
I think the advantage is on the restore: you won't have to create a gazillion little files which is actually the bottleneck (typically) in Windows. The backup will be limited to one stream, but that will be faster too, on the order of what a GiGE network can optimally do: 200-300GB/hour. I

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-11 Thread Nicholas Rodolfich
It is ~2,000,000 individual files after hours.

Re: Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-11 Thread Stephan Boldt
Hi Nicholas, 2008/12/11 Nicholas Rodolfich nrodolf...@cmaontheweb.com It is ~2,000,000 individual files after hours. I would also recommend the robocopy way! Run a robocopy job transferring all files to the new volume. That may run even for days but if you run it again at the beginning of you