I am still fairly new to dedupe (never had the need/horsepower) so I am
still stumbling with it.
All ISP servers are RHEL 7.1.7.300.
We have a situation where a storagepool that is deduped, needs to be
emptied. I have volumes that show something like 20% utilized. But when I
do a movedata
Client 7.1.4.0
Haven't found anything in the docs, does SP have any guidance on online image
backup/restore of volumes that are deduped at the Windows OS level?
Any gotchas or special considerations?
Thanks,
Steve Schaub
Systems Engineer II, Backup/Recovery
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Tennessee
: Montag, 3. August 2015 14:29
An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Betreff: Re: How can I exclude files from dedupe processing?
Deduplication is an attribute of a a storage pool. If you have data you
don't wish to de duplicate, you would need a separate storage pool.
..Paul
(sent from my iPhone
Unfortunately the final storage pool is the dedupe pool.
Date:Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:32:17 +
From:Paul Zarnowski p...@cornell.edumailto:p...@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: How can I exclude files from dedupe processing?
Since the files are already using a separate management class, you
@VM.MARIST.EDU] Im Auftrag von
Paul Zarnowski
Gesendet: Montag, 3. August 2015 14:29
An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Betreff: Re: How can I exclude files from dedupe processing?
Deduplication is an attribute of a a storage pool. If you have data you
don't wish to de duplicate, you would need a separate
storage pool is the dedupe pool.
Date:Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:32:17 +
From:Paul Zarnowski
p...@cornell.edumailto:p...@cornell.edumailto:p...@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: How can I exclude files from dedupe processing?
Since the files are already using a separate management class, you can
for dedupe processing. Is
there any way to have them excluded from dedupe server processing ? I know I
can exclude them from client dedupe processing which I am not doing on this
client anyways. I have the SERVERDEDUPTXNLIMIT limit set to 200, but these rman
dumps are smaller than 200g. I have our DBAs
have a 6.3.5.100 Linux server and several TSM 7.1.0.0 Linux clients. Those
linux clients are dumping several Large Oracle databases using compression, and
then those files are being backed up to TSM. Because the files are compressed
when dumped via RMAN, they are not good candidates for dedupe
for dedupe
Bill,
I just wanted to let you know how much this information helped. I was
able to clear out all the problem volumes and have removed the full LUNs
from the devclass until there is enough space on them to be used again.
This situation really seems strange to me. Why has TSM not been
,
Bill Colwell
Draper Lab
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Martha
M McConaghy
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:23 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM 7.1 usage of volumes for dedupe
Interesting. Seems very similar
, October 30, 2014 10:09 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM 7.1 usage of volumes for dedupe
Bill,
I just wanted to let you know how much this information helped. I was
able to clear out all the problem volumes and have removed the full LUNs
from the devclass until there is enough space
Of
Martha M McConaghy
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:09 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM 7.1 usage of volumes for dedupe
Bill,
I just wanted to let you know how much this information helped. I was
able to clear out all the problem volumes and have removed the full LUNs
ran v6, I don't know if this is normal
or if we have stumbled upon a bug in 7.1. So, I figured I'd ask on the
list and see if any of you have some insight.
Our dedupe storage pool is dev class FILE, of course. It is set up to
acquire new scratch volumes as it needs over time. Originally, I had
ask on the
list and see if any of you have some insight.
Our dedupe storage pool is dev class FILE, of course. It is set up to
acquire new scratch volumes as it needs over time. Originally, I had
the max scratch vols allowed at 999, which seemed reasonable. After
about a month, though, we
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:08 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 usage of volumes for dedupe
Hi Martha,
have you run query content on some of the volumes to see, if they are really
empty?
Michael
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Martha M McConaghy
, I'm concerned about how it is using the volumes in the
storage pool. Since we never ran v6, I don't know if this is normal
or if we have stumbled upon a bug in 7.1. So, I figured I'd ask on the
list and see if any of you have some insight.
Our dedupe storage pool is dev class FILE, of course
-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 usage of volumes for dedupe
Hi Martha,
have you run query content on some of the volumes to see, if they are really
empty?
Michael
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Martha M McConaghy
martha.mccona...@marist.edu wrote:
We just installed TSM 7.1
usage of volumes for dedupe
We just installed TSM 7.1 during the summer and have been working on
migrating our backups over from our old v5.5 system. We are using
deduplication for our main storage pool and it seems to work great.
However, I'm concerned about how it is using the volumes
and it seems to work great.
However, I'm concerned about how it is using the volumes in the
storage pool. Since we never ran v6, I don't know if this is normal
or if we have stumbled upon a bug in 7.1. So, I figured I'd ask on the
list and see if any of you have some insight.
Our dedupe storage pool
. So, I figured I'd ask on
the
list and see if any of you have some insight.
Our dedupe storage pool is dev class FILE, of course. It is set up to
acquire new scratch volumes as it needs over time. Originally, I had
the max scratch vols allowed at 999, which seemed reasonable. After
about a month
Interesting. Seems very similar, except the status of these volumes is
FULL, not EMPTY. However, the %reclaimable space is 0.0.
I think this is a bug. I would expect the volume to leave the pool once
it is reclaimed. It would be OK with me if it did not. However, since
the status is FULL, it
-
De: Martha M McConaghy martha.mccona...@marist.edu
À: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Envoyé: Mercredi 22 Octobre 2014 20:22:31
Objet: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 usage of volumes for dedupe
Interesting. Seems very similar, except the status of these volumes is
FULL, not EMPTY. However, the %reclaimable space
@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Martha
M McConaghy
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:23 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: TSM 7.1 usage of volumes for dedupe
Interesting. Seems very similar, except the status of these volumes is
FULL, not EMPTY. However, the %reclaimable space is 0.0.
I think
dedupe storage pool is dev class FILE, of course. It is set up to
acquire new scratch volumes as it needs over time. Originally, I had
the max scratch vols allowed at 999, which seemed reasonable. After
about a month, though, we hit that max and I had to keep raising it.
When I query the volumes
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 usage of volumes for dedupe
Yup, they are really empty.
/data0/0D57.BFS DEDUPEPOOL FILE 50.0
G 0.0 Full
tsm: TSMPRIMESERVERq content /data0/0D57.BFS Session established with
server TSMPRIMESERVER
:50
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1 usage of volumes for dedupe
Don't believe that.
I have seen it before - if you can do a MOVE DATA, it isn't really empty.
I think it has to do with dedup.
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L
copy pool performance is
also in similar line.
Surely there are multiple things involved in performance, but I don't find any
things which can be considered as baseline for data migration performance from
de-dupe pool to non-dedupe (Tape) pool.
Any inputs on same will really help.
Thanks,
Sachin
/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/wikis/home/wiki/Tivoli
+Storage+Manager/page/Home
ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu wrote on 2014-07-17
08:52:33:
From: Rick Adamson rickadam...@biloholdings.com
To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
Date: 2014-07-17 08:53
Subject: Re: Windows 2012 native Dedupe
Sent
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Andrew
Raibeck
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 5:31 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Windows 2012 native Dedupe
Hi Rick,
You can use the backup-archive client to back up files on volumes
Anyone backing up a Win2012 system that is using its native deduplication ?
I took a quick scan of the BA client doc (7.1) and did not see any mention of
it.
Any information/feedback/references would be appreciated.
Thanks
Rick Adamson
Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu wrote on 2014-07-16
16:30:33:
From: Rick Adamson rickadam...@biloholdings.com
To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
Date: 2014-07-16 16:31
Subject: Windows 2012 native Dedupe
Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
Anyone backing up a Win2012 system that is using its
All, I have some remote W2K3 servers running client-side dedupe in order to
save bandwidth. The problem is that they are memory constrained (to say the
least: 2GB!). I haven't been able to find any recommendations about client-side
dedupe and RAM, just that it's processor-intensive and may
I use Datadomain and love it.
Johnny Lea
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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 9:00 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Dedupe Storage Appliances Question
Hello all, I am sure
Hello all, I am sure this topic has been covered, but I am about to issue an
RFI and RFP for a new dedupe storage appliance for our TSM environment. I was
curious on your opinions on who the leading players were in the market that
work well with TSM. I want to have 4 candidates. My short
@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Dedupe Storage Appliances Question
Hello all, I am sure this topic has been covered, but I am about to issue an
RFI and RFP for a new dedupe storage appliance for our TSM environment. I was
curious on your opinions on who the leading players were in the market that
work well
packages the FalconStor engine with their own disk, and I
believe CHI corp (a var) sells Falconstor.
Rick
From: Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT andy.hueb...@alconlabs.com
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Date: 02/24/2011 10:31 AM
Subject:Re: Dedupe Storage Appliances Question
Sent
We talked with FalconStor.
Andy Huebner
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
Richard Rhodes
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 10:36 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Dedupe Storage Appliances Question
EMC DataDomain
IBM ProtectTier
Sepaton
We use both DataDomain (only file devclass over NFS) and ProtecTier.
Both work well we've tended to use the ProtecTier's in our larger
environments.
Steven
Hi,
We are seeing some very good results using clientside dedupe on a VMware VCB
proxy, we are seeing a 87% data not stored ratio on the FILEPOOL.
This ratio is maintained even now after several months of intense use.
I think this is pretty incredable, customer is happy, we are happy!
TSM
...@bkme.com
Please consider the environment before printing this Email
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of John
D. Schneider
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:13 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Seeking wisdom on dedupe
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 08:34:47 +0200, Stefan Folkerts
stefan.folke...@itaa.nl said:
Interesting ideas and a simulator would be fun for this purpose.
You could be right and your example does make sense in a way but
still.. I do wonder if it works out in the real world.
Let's say you have
] Seeking wisdom on dedupe..filepool file size
client compression and reclaims
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 08:34:47 +0200, Stefan Folkerts
stefan.folke...@itaa.nl said:
Interesting ideas and a simulator would be fun for this purpose.
You could be right and your example does make sense in a way
: [ADSM-L] Seeking wisdom on dedupe..filepool file size
client compression and reclaims
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:24:11 +0200, Stefan Folkerts
stefan.folke...@itaa.nl said:
Now I am thinking, dedupe only occurs when you move data the volumes
or reclaim them but 10G volumes might not get reclaimed
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Folkerts
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:24 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Seeking wisdom on dedupe..filepool file size client
compression and reclaims
TSM guru's of the world,
I
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Stefan Folkerts wrote:
TSM guru's of the world,
Also client compression, does anybody have an figures on how this effect
the effectiveness of deduplication?
Because these are both of interest in a filepool, if deduplication works
just as good in combination with compression
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client compression and reclaims
From: Roger Deschner rog...@uic.edu
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009 9:34 am
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009
Boyer
Hang in there, retirement is only thirty years away! - ??
-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of John
D. Schneider
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:13 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Seeking wisdom on dedupe..filepool file
server) and just accept
the fact that I have a lot of volumes, no problem TSM can handle a lot
of volumes.
Now I am thinking, dedupe only occurs when you move data the volumes or
reclaim them but 10G volumes might not get reclaimed for a LONG time
since they contain so little data the chance
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:24:11 +0200, Stefan Folkerts
stefan.folke...@itaa.nl said:
Now I am thinking, dedupe only occurs when you move data the volumes
or reclaim them but 10G volumes might not get reclaimed for a LONG
time since they contain so little data the chance of that getting
, Exchange and DB
dumps. But that is also the hardest type of data to de-dup.
My two cents.
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of madunix
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:37 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Dedupe
However, for my
Ditto on Lindsay's it depends
For my NetApp devices, observed NAS filesystem dedupe renges from 10% to
70% depending on the data.
VMware NFS shares typically show a good ratio. We for our VM
environment, we split our OS apart from data and paging space as
depicted below:
Filesystem
Greetings,
Hopefully, this will not be too much traffic about the same topic.
There are a zillion people jumping in to the dedupe market, because of
the huge opportunity to sell products in this space. Not all products
are created equal. Ask questions (or get references from existing
customers
I a dedup appliance, that is exactly what you don't have. The dedup
process guarantees that only one copy is kept of each unique block of
that data. If a given block of data is lost due to corruption or
failure of the media, then potentially all of the copies of a certain
file that contains
your inputs are really appreciated
madunix
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Richard
Rhodesrrho...@firstenergycorp.com wrote:
I a dedup appliance, that is exactly what you don't have. The dedup
process guarantees that only one copy is kept of each unique block of
that data. If a given
, 2009 9:04 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Dedupe
I a dedup appliance, that is exactly what you don't have. The dedup
process guarantees that only one copy is kept of each unique block of
that data. If a given block of data is lost due to corruption or
failure of the media
:55 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Dedupe
We have a couple of DataDomain 580s here. If you look in the archives you will
find my comments on the rate of compression we are getting and my impressions.
As far as the putting all your eggs in one basket scenario, that always is
the worst
if there are
any follow-up questions ;-})
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Ochs,
Duane
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:52 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Dedupe
Ben,
Do you also keep your dedupped data cached on the DD
I was reading the following on the net regarding dedupe, can I have
your opinion about the dedupe?
http://www.backupcentral.com/content/view/231/47/
http://www.backupcentral.com/content/view/229/47/
Thanks
madunix
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:00:52 +0200, madunix madu...@gmail.com said:
I was reading the following on the net regarding dedupe, can I have
your opinion about the dedupe?
You may note that you get a somewhat sparse, even frosty, response
from this list. I'll let you know why I, in particular
somewhat right but still over the top in my humble opinion ... so, whatever
...you could simply answer with short and clear answer about dedupe if you
know anything, or simply
ignore the question ... so your behavior is really odd.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Allen S. Rout a...@ufl.edu wrote
could simply answer with short and clear answer about dedupe
if you
know anything, or simply
ignore the question ... so your behavior is really odd.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Allen S. Rout a...@ufl.edu wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:00:52 +0200, madunix madu...@gmail.com
said:
I
Of lindsay morris
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:07 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Dedupe
Short and clear answer about de-dupe:
It depends.
Hope this helps.
--
Mr. Lindsay Morris
Principal
www.tsmworks.com
919-403-8260
lind...@tsmworks.com
On Jun 24
However, for my thoughts of Dedupe it could be interesting for those
who need to decrease the number of tape cartridges, but they could
suffer signifigannt CPU and I/O spec. for dedupe processing, and one
issue i was thinking about is a fauiler or if one part is corrupted,
i.e. many files would
Until it comes out, one could use diligent Protectier as reference point
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Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM 6.x and dedupe
Sent: Feb 20, 2009 08:51
Can users
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From: Tyree, David
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Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM 6.x and dedupe
Sent: Feb 20, 2009 08:51
Can users of TSM 6.x comment on it's data dedupe
functionality? I'm curious as to how it functions and would like some
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Sent: Feb 21, 2009 15:20
On Feb 21, 2009, at 20:49 , Delroy Blake wrote:
Until it comes out, one could use diligent Protectier as reference
point
do you have any indications about any part of the diligent
to attend the TSM
symposium or join the beta program, you indeed need to speculate, or
better, be patient.
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Sent: Feb 21, 2009
In case anyone forgot the URL to the Oxford presentations:
http://tsm-symposium.oucs.ox.ac.uk/2007contributions.html:
in particular:
http://tsm-symposium.oucs.ox.ac.uk/2007/papers/Dave%20Cannon%20-%20Data%20Deduplication.pdf
Joerg Pohlmann
250-245-9863
Can users of TSM 6.x comment on it's data dedupe
functionality? I'm curious as to how it functions and would like some
info about it.
David Tyree
Interface Analyst
South Georgia Medical Center
229.333.1155
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Being that TSM 6.1 is still in beta, I wouldn't put much weight on any kind of
metrics or performance available with the current load.
Everyone also needs to keep in mind that dedupe will only be initially
available for storage pools that are FILE-based. DISK- and TAPE-based dedupe
, David david.ty...@sgmc.org
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