Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-07 Thread GUILLAUMONT Etienne
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Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-07 Thread GUILLAUMONT Etienne
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Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-07 Thread William Rosette
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Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-07 Thread William Rosette
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Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-07 Thread GUILLAUMONT Etienne
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Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-07 Thread William Rosette
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Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-07 Thread Ford, Phillip
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental My question to you would be, could you do a restore, say 3 months ago, or 9 months ago? How do you keep files longer than the versions on the active database. Our

Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-07 Thread Coats, Jack
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental I am going to stick my foot in my mouth but here goes. I do not feel that 3 months ago, 9 months ago, or 7 years ago are backups. These are archives. We have the problem here that the higher ups tend to think

Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-07 Thread Richard Sims
I am going to stick my foot in my mouth but here goes. I do not feel that 3 months ago, 9 months ago, or 7 years ago are backups. These are archives. Or perhaps, waybackups, to coin a phrase to maintain delineation between TSM Backups and Archives. :-) Richard

Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-07 Thread Jim Kirkman
Richard, Should proper credit go to 'Mr. Peabody' for that one? Richard Sims wrote: I am going to stick my foot in my mouth but here goes. I do not feel that 3 months ago, 9 months ago, or 7 years ago are backups. These are archives. Or perhaps, waybackups, to coin a phrase to maintain

Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-06 Thread GUILLAUMONT Etienne
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Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-06 Thread William Rosette
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Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-06 Thread GUILLAUMONT Etienne
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Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-06 Thread William Rosette
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Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-06 Thread DFrance
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Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-06 Thread William Rosette
: Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 03/06/2003 03:09 PM Please respond

Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-06 Thread DFrance
To (briefly?) summarize... (the first two bullets address your original query): - With TSM, all the active AND inactive versions are (a) always in the silo, (b) only sent across the network ONCE (if you use the progressive-incremental the way it was intended)... extra copies of the same version

Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-05 Thread Cook, Dwight E
Old style Full+Incr (as it was some 15-20 years ago...) Say you run weekend full with weekday incrementals. Say on Friday, your environment goes down You restore from your weekend full You restore from your Mon incr (all the data on the tapes) You restore from your Tue incr

Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-05 Thread Gianluca Mariani1
Progressive incremental backs up only new or changed files. during the initial backup the client backs up all eligible files of course(full backup). Subsequently, files are backed up again only if they are new or have changed since the last backup. In TSMs case, a pointer to each version of

Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-05 Thread Kai Hintze
TSM can give very quick restores, but beware fragmentation in uncollocated tape pools. We had to rebuild a small (350GB) unix server last year that required upward of 300 tape mounts, and finding a single file in the middle of each tape. It took days. Since then I have gotten funding to buy

Re: progressive backup vs. full + incremental

2003-03-05 Thread shekhar Dhotre
what is the difference between full+incremental , incremental and partial incremental ? also when I do dsmc incr which incremental backup procedure is applied ? do I need to always specify subdir=yes to backup all changed (data) files , directories since last incr backup or dsmc incr