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From: Kauffman, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:47 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times in a day?
A single T1 won't handle the load. We average about 22 GB of redo log per
day, and I've seen peaks over 45 GB
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:54:34 -0500, Kauffman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Electronic off-siting isn't an option -- I've seen us cut 400 MB
Oracle redo logs for our SAP/R3 database at the rate of one every
2.5 minutes for extended time periods (and this is explicitly the
data that has to go
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:11:02 -0500, Richard Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'd encourage them to step back and look at the big picture, in
conjunction with prevailing technology opportunities.
I love your word choice. You need a new nickname, something like
'speaker-to-executives'.
- Allen
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:29:11 -0500, Kauffman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The 'safe' building is our hangar at the local airport -- 13 miles away
direct line. We've looked at the various fiber extenders, iSCSI, and all
the other options -- and can't make a business case for the cost. The
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 23:13:21 -0500, Kauffman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
There's cheap and then there's cost-effective. For what the telco
wanted for a T3 to our hangar (our off-site storage facility) we could
pay wages and full benefits to TWO clerical types to do nothing but snag
and
, in brass, bronze,
plastic, and iron.)
Tom
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Allen S. Rout
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:54 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times in a day?
On Thu, 5 Jan
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Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times in a day?
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:29:11 -0500, Kauffman, Tom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The 'safe' building is our hangar at the local airport -- 13 miles
away
direct line. We've looked at the various fiber extenders, iSCSI, and
all
I want to thank everyone who responded to this question.
The interaction forced me to think through the actuall issues and work
out what *looks* like a viable way to handle the process. With a bit of
luck, I will be in a position to try my ideas out in early February, and
I'll report back as to
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 16:39:29 -0500, Kauffman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The interaction forced me to think through the actuall issues and work
out what *looks* like a viable way to handle the process. With a bit of
luck, I will be in a position to try my ideas out in early February, and
, 2006 5:26 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times in a day?
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 16:39:29 -0500, Kauffman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The interaction forced me to think through the actuall issues and work
out what *looks* like a viable way to handle
Like I said -- the questions are crawling out of the wood-work.
Our management wants to reduce the possible data loss in the event of a
disaster by taking copies off-site both in the early morning and again
at the end of first shift.
Is anyone else doing this? Will this be as painfull as I
On Jan 5, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Kauffman, Tom wrote:
Our management wants to reduce the possible data loss in the event
of a
disaster by taking copies off-site both in the early morning and again
at the end of first shift. ...
Tom - That implies that they are thinking of running backups and then
for the
circuit was a project killer.
Tom
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Richard Sims
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:11 AM
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Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times in a day?
On Jan 5, 2006
Manager
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Please respond
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
John Monahan
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:10 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times in a day?
I'm thinking you're going to need to add tape drives before thinking
Of
John Monahan
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:10 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times in a day?
I'm thinking you're going to need to add tape drives before thinking of
doing something like this. You are going to shorten your current daily
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Kauffman, Tom
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:31 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times in a day?
We'll be adding 6 more drives in a few weeks -- to a total of 16. I have
6 off-site copy pools, one of which never goes
tape -- but the monthly charge for the
circuit was a project killer.
Tom
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Richard Sims
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Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times
05, 2006 11:10 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times in a day?
I'm thinking you're going to need to add tape drives before thinking of
doing something like this. You are going to shorten your current daily
maintenance window because you have to squeeze
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01/05/2006 07:29 AM
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No backups, just Oracle redo logs -- but I can generate 20 GB
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I'm thinking you're going to need to add tape drives before
thinking
of doing something like
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Larry Peifer
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:12 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times in a day?
If it's just an Oracle DB issue, no backups, then how about using Oracle
Data Guard
As a coworker once had posted on his door (Hey John, if you're out there!):
There are three kinds of work:
Reliable
Fast
Cheap
You may pick two.
And it looks like you're in the unfortunate position where the powers that
be are asking for all three.
Backups are just like insurance - you may be
, linux, and AIX).
My head hurts.
Tom
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Steven Harris
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:05 PM
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Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times in a day?
If its mostly the SAP
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Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times in a day?
As a coworker once had posted on his door (Hey John, if you're out
there!):
There are three kinds of work:
Reliable
Fast
Cheap
You may pick two.
And it looks like you're in the unfortunate position where the powers
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